16-03-2003 07:53									#1
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As you may know or even care, I've applied to thirteen schools. I most recently came here for help in my college essay, which I think if great because of finbar, among other posters. Now, the time of judgement comes. I'll list the thirteen colleges I applied to, and you guys bet which ones'll accept me and which won't.

Boston University
Bowdoin College
Harvard College
Brown University
Swarthmore
American U
NYU
Columbia
Tufts
UMass Amherst
Georgetown
Northeastern
Princeton

What do you all think?

	16-03-2003 07:55									#2
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How would we know?

Are you a screwup or an honor student?

Extra curricular activities?

Atheletics?

	16-03-2003 07:58									#3
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Just say none.

	16-03-2003 07:58									#4
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Isn't Brown, eh, a woman-only college?

	16-03-2003 08:01									#5
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In that case go to Brown.

	16-03-2003 08:04									#6
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I think Alie said something against (recently) all-women schools.

	16-03-2003 08:05									#7
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Alie?

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She whose handle I cannot spell.

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Oh, the hot asian chick?

	16-03-2003 08:13									#10
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Asian, yes. Chinese IIRC. Hot, unknown. Chick, she may resent being called a chick.

	16-03-2003 08:14									#11
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OK, let's go through my stuff then:

1420 SAT Is
800 World History SAT II
700 US History SAT II
730 Math IC
710 (?) Writing, maybe 700
4.04 GPA
All lines fill in transcript for extra-curriculars.

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SAT I kinda weak. Any ACT stuff?

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Ya your SAT is good but might be tough for places like Harvard where everyone will probably have perfect scores unless they have political connections.

I'd say chances are good for everything cept Princeton and Harvard.

Go to Georgetown.

	16-03-2003 08:24									#14
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I wouldn't mind that really. My top choices are Georgetown and Brown.

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Anything specific you want to study?

	16-03-2003 08:29									#16
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International Relations/Law (if you knew me in my Stories & Dip time, this wouldn't surprise you)

UR, no ACTs...

	16-03-2003 08:36									#17
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What's a good SAT? And what's the difference between I and II?

I had to take the GRE before I applied to North American grad programs which was a pain considering I learned of it's existence a week before I had to take it and most of the other candidates spend months preparing for it with books and software and stuff. Moreover, I took it soaking wet as it rained on me on the way to the exam.

Sucks eh?

On the other hand I did alright.

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Well cool Georgetown would be a perfect fit for you Mao. Plus, it's a killer campus in the middle of one of the best cities.

If you go to Georgetown, I will envy you!

	16-03-2003 08:48									#19
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Agathon - for Princeton and Harvard, 1500+

Ted - where's Georgetown?

Personally, I like Boston U. better

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...that's what they say...but let's see if they accept me...

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Both Brown and Georgetown are really good schools. I used to date a girl from Brown and it can be a bit artsy-fartsy but its pretty cool.

And the GRE is piss easy if your at all competent you really shouldn't have to do anything but a quick review.

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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Agathon - for Princeton and Harvard, 1500+ Ted - where's Georgetown? Personally, I like Boston U. better

I've got a friend doing his PhD at Harvard. He says that the undergrads there are a pain in the ass as they have spent their whole lives being coached and filling up their resumes to get in.

I think the standardised tests are dumb. If you can prepare for them by learning all the tricks to get a perfect score then the test has ceased to serve its purpose.

The GRE is just like this - another guy who took it prepared for months and bought lots of expensive software (oddly enough I thrashed him and he was extremely annoyed). I suppose this is what happens when you don't have national high school exams.

The Harvard guy went to Oxford for his undergrad work and they let him in on his exam grades and just pointed the way to the pub.

I know which one I'd rather go to.

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quote: Originally posted by ThePantaloonDog Both Brown and Georgetown are really good schools. I used to date a girl from Brown and it can be a bit artsy-fartsy but its pretty cool. And the GRE is piss easy if your at all competent you really shouldn't have to do anything but a quick review.

I didn't find it hard; although all the math was from the US curriculum which studies different stuff from we Antipodeans and you guys spell funny too. I did worst on that even though I managed to get over the 2100 mark which is apparently supposed to mean something.

I'm not so much worried about the GRE or the SAT being hard, but that it loses its point if dopes can just train themselves to get a perfect score.

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UR, the breakdown for the scores for Harvard and Princeton are kinda low. I fall easily into the average 50% percent.

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Urban,

Georgetown is smack right in the middle of Washington, DC. Alot of spies are educated there and also it's a solid law school.

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It's a lot easier to get into the undergrads at Havard etc. if you have the political connections, e.g. your parents are alumnis, etc. But post-grad work is different, all you need is kick-arse school grades.

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I agree.

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Mao,

Well, they don't want average


Ted,

Washington D.C? Ill, who wants to be there?

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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger It's a lot easier to get into the undergrads at Havard etc. if you have the political connections, e.g. your parents are alumnis, etc. But post-grad work is different, all you need is kick-arse school grades.

And a good sample paper.

You do need to do alright on the GRE to get your application read though (I heard 2100 as the cutoff).

	16-03-2003 09:05									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Urban, Georgetown is smack right in the middle of Washington, DC. Alot of spies are educated there and also it's a solid law school.

Georgetown sent me a load of stuff after I took the GRE: I got the impression that they were a very religious school because a disturbing number of the profs seemed to be called Father so and so.

It sucks for philosophy though.