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Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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...and apparently goes great with tartar sauce!

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Word is made flesh as God reveals himself... as a fish

Edward Helmore New York
Sunday March 16, 2003
The Observer

An obscure Jewish sect in New York has been gripped in awe by what it believes to be a mystical visitation by a 20lb carp that was heard shouting in Hebrew, in what many Jews worldwide are hailing as a modern miracle.
Many of the 7,000-member Skver sect of Hasidim in New Square, 30 miles north of Manhattan, believe God has revealed himself in fish form.

According to two fish-cutters at the New Square Fish Market, the carp was about to be slaughtered and made into gefilte fish for Sabbath dinner when it suddenly began shouting apocalyptic warnings in Hebrew.

Many believe the carp was channelling the troubled soul of a revered community elder who recently died; others say it was God. The only witnesses to the mystical show were Zalmen Rosen, a 57-year-old Hasid with 11 children, and his co-worker, Luis Nivelo. They say that on 28 January at 4pm they were about to club the carp on the head when it began yelling.

Nivelo, a Gentile who does not understand Hebrew, was so shocked at the sight of a fish talking in any language that he fell over. He ran into the front of the store screaming: 'It's the Devil! The Devil is here!' Then the shop owner heard it shouting warnings and commands too.

'It said "Tzaruch shemirah" and "Hasof bah",' he told the New York Times, 'which essentially means that everyone needs to account for themselves because the end is near.'

The animated carp commanded Rosen to pray and study the Torah. Rosen tried to kill the fish but injured himself. It was finally butchered by Nivelo and sold.

However, word spread far and wide and Nivelo complains he has been plagued by phone calls from as far away as London and Israel. The story has since been amplified by repetition and some now believe the fish's outburst was a warning about the dangers of the impending war in Iraq.

Some say they fear the born-again President Bush believes he is preparing the world for the Second Coming of Christ, and war in Iraq is just the opening salvo in the battle of Armageddon.

Local resident Abraham Spitz said: 'Two men do not dream the same dream. It is very rare that God reminds people he exists in this modern world. But when he does, you cannot ignore it.'

Others in New Square discount the apocalyptic reading altogether and suggest the notion of a talking fish is as fictional as Tony Soprano's talking-fish dream in an episode of The Sopranos .

Stand-up comedians have already incorporated the carp into their comedy routines at weddings. One gefilte company has considered changing it's slogan to: 'Our fish speaks for itself.'

Still, the shouting carp corresponds with the belief of some Hasidic sects that righteous people can be reincarnated as fish. They say that Nivelo may have been selected because he is not Jewish, but a weary Nivelo told the New York Times : 'I wish I never said anything about it. I'm getting so many calls every day, I've stopped answering. Israel, London, Miami, Brooklyn. They all want to hear about the talking fish.'

A devout Christian, he still thinks the carp was the Devil. 'I don't believe any of this Jewish stuff. But I heard that fish talk.'

He's grown tired of the whole thing. 'It's just a big headache for me,' he added. 'I pull my phone out of the wall at night. I don't sleep and I've lost weight.'


Now, I bet God would make one tasty meal!

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mmmmmm... sacrilicious.

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The time and plaice of his coming are certainly unusual - are we sure this isn't a red herring? We've been cod out before, after all.

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"Dear, that piece of fish was good enough for Jehovah!"

"Well, honey, surprise--it was Jehovah!"

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He said Jehovah! Stone him!

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And they say the human race is not spiralling into madness!

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The time and plaice of his coming are certainly unusual - are we sure this isn't a red herring? We've been cod out before, after all.


best worst puns EVER

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I saw the face of Jesus in my muffin this morning! What does it all mean?

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*bows*
Thankyou I was going to add more, but I think they'd probably just give people a haddock.

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Where's my fishing rod, I'm off to go and catch some deities!

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I surrender to your puns!

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Follow the Fish!

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You would think that if it was a fish it would be a Christian omen.

Weird.

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This reminds me of the Big P*ssy talking fish from The Sopranos.

Interesting that when presented with a talking fish bearing a message from God, Rosen still gets the Gentile to kill it.

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mmm, God tastes of tape recorder. How strange.

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Why does it seem like there is always some hispanic at an "God" sightings? Forst, Mary in a tortilla, next in a tree, and now God in a fish.....

At least this can make a nice.. A priest, a reverand, and a rabbi walk into a bar joke....

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Ah, two men and a dead fish.

Could make a catchy name for a film.

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It's the evolution. The fish is trying to dissuade its captors from killing it. It obviously didn't work, so the fishes will have to think about other things.

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Can we start up a Cult of the Talking Carp?

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Oh god, what a bunch of blao.

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Sounds like a load of old carp, if you ask me.

Boom-tish.

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Ba-dum-bum-tccccchh

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Something interesting from the NYtimes version of the story:

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He looked around to see if the voice had come from the slop sink, the other room or the shop's cat.



Must be a pretty impressive cat, mine can only speak Bad English and Worse English, but not Hebrew.


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My cat is very smart, but frustrated by our lack of understanding. I think she speaks Hebrew, but it could be Russian.

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Perhaps the creature in question was the SOLE survivor of a school of preternaturally intelligent fish.

If only it had been more mobile, it could have BARRACUDA'd itself behind some iceboxes, climbed upon a PERCH, and then SALMON chanted evening, liberated itself, possibly reaching the turnPIKE in New Jersey.

Was it asthmatic? Did it need a PUFFER?

I have to go, someone may be at the door- or not. My HERRING is getting worse...

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That fish was on LSD

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Hmmm... so Catholics ought to be eating carp instead of bread in church?

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