17-03-2003 04:02									#1
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It has begun... The top 4 seeds have been announced with the rest to follow shortly.

Arizona in the West
Kentucky in the Mid West
Oklahoma in the East
Texas in the South.

	17-03-2003 04:30									#2
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is it just me or did they load the west?

1)arizona
2)Kansas
3)Duke
4)Illinois
5)Notre Dame

I don't see Illinois going very far this year

	17-03-2003 04:31									#3
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Why is there an extra team anyway?

	17-03-2003 04:41									#4
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Just pass the trophy to the Horns and save time.

O.T.
Bobby Knight trips me out more, with every passing year. Giving back paycheck? Allrighty then.

	17-03-2003 04:43									#5
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34 at large teams and 31 conference tourney winners. I imagine that an extra conference champ was added at some point and the major conferences cried about losing a potential spot so they made the play in game. just a guess though

	17-03-2003 04:44									#6
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Man, that West is loaded (as usual - same deal last year) and didn't the Big East just totally get the shaft with regards to the bubble teams? I thought either BC or Seton Hall would get in for sure... but if that was the price the NCAA had to pay to get Butler in there, so be it. But whazzup with putting Arizona & Kentucky on the same side?

I'm seeing primo upset possibilities already...

And H Tower is spot on when it comes to explaining the 64/65 thing...

	17-03-2003 04:45									#7
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the two big 12 teams meeting in the final four and not the championship game is stupid. The head of the selection committee says it's not his job to look at that kind of thing.

	17-03-2003 04:47									#8
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the head of the committee keeps repeating that a different group of 10 people would have placed teams differently. I'd like to see that different group of people.

	17-03-2003 04:48									#9
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Kentucky will win it ALL this year

	17-03-2003 04:54									#10
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These are the stupidest brackets I've ever seen...
None of it makes sense. And Texas gets to play against the winner of the play in game... hmmm, are they better than Kentucky and Arizona...

And yeah... Illinois got TOTALLY SCREWED. And the chairman pretty much admitted that thier tourney win didn't matter... decisions were made before the game was even played...

	17-03-2003 05:06									#11
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Go Duke!!!!!

	17-03-2003 05:09									#12
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Ming: Perfect examples of why there should be NO TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONSHIPS the ENTIRETY of Selection Weekend. Gives the committee time to make the RIGHT decisions. Sacrifice the damn ratings in the name of getting the tournament right.

Take heart, though... yes, the bracket is loaded, but I think the Illini are capable of beating any of the three teams seeded above them (yes, even Arizona).

And I'll predict my first upset right here:

The Syracuse Orangemen go down in the first round at the hands of the Manhattan Jaspers.

	17-03-2003 05:14									#13
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The NCAA Basketball Tournament has to be one of the greatest achievements of this nation. God I love it!

	17-03-2003 05:14									#14
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Yeah... the bozos gave them a free ride... with their bracket championships being played in Albany... and then tried to claim that wasn't an advantage... yet Pitt will have to play in Minneapolis... Syracuse will be tough.

And I still think the Illini can come out of the West... but damn, there isn't a free game on their road...

	17-03-2003 05:15									#15
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Do you guys have a link to the seedings?

	17-03-2003 05:18									#16
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Sikander: ESPN.com, cbs.sportsline.com, SI.com all have the seedings bracket.

	17-03-2003 05:19									#17
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracket

	17-03-2003 05:25									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Ming These are the stupidest brackets I've ever seen... None of it makes sense. And Texas gets to play against the winner of the play in game... hmmm, are they better than Kentucky and Arizona... And yeah... Illinois got TOTALLY SCREWED. And the chairman pretty much admitted that thier tourney win didn't matter... decisions were made before the game was even played...

The same the happened to the Buckeyes last year. They won the Big 10 tourny and were sent out west to play on thurs. The team they beat was able to stay in the midwest and play on Friday.

They do this every year.

	17-03-2003 05:31									#19
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While Wisconsin may have won the regular season... it was obvious to everybody (by looking at ANY poll) that the Illini were the best team in the Big 10. Please explain how the POD system was used to "thank" big 10 fans by putting them out west.
And teams like Syracuse get a gift. I guess if you are an East Coast team, they are MORE FAIR to their fans...

	17-03-2003 05:31									#20
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Ooh, it looks like my Spartans are playing the local yokel Colorado Buffaloes in the first round. Perhaps I'll be able to see the game.

	17-03-2003 05:40									#21
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Yup, Texas shouldn't even get a #1 seed, KANSAS deserved that slot!!! Now the Jayhawks are in the same regional as Arizona, Duke, and Illinois? Those are, or should be, all top 10 teams. Oh well, March Madness is HERE! When can we start filling in the brackets, Reismark?

	17-03-2003 05:41									#22
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We can probably start filling them in now

	17-03-2003 05:42									#23
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The top seeds should have been:

Kentucky (against the play-in)
Arizona
Oklahoma
Pittsburgh

And Ming would be correct, Berzerker.

	17-03-2003 05:43									#24
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Oh... and for all you new people who have never joined in Apolyton March Madness...

Check this thread out...

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...?threadid=79814

Sign up... make your picks... join the Apolyton Sports Community.

	17-03-2003 05:47									#25
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quote: Originally posted by reismark The top seeds should have been: Kentucky (against the play-in) Arizona Oklahoma Pittsburgh And Ming would be correct, Berzerker.

you're snubbing kansas too?

	17-03-2003 06:12									#26
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Yeah... Kansas got snubbed... Pitt got screwed... and the Illini got TOTALLY SCREWED...

	17-03-2003 06:14									#27
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go BEARCATS!!!!!!

we were all worried cincinnati wouldnt get a seed

	17-03-2003 06:18									#28
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I was thrilled that SIU got in after lossing in the MVC title game.

As much as I'm complaining about the brackets, I'll give them credit for rewarding the mid majors this time. Because they screwed them last year... just ask Butler

	17-03-2003 06:43									#29
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It is done. KY vs. AZ in the Final, with the Tele-Tubby's winning it all.

	17-03-2003 06:53									#30
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT It is done. KY vs. AZ in the Final, with the Tele-Tubby's winning it all.

You mean the Round of 4? They meet before the championship