19-03-2003 05:01									#31
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike You probably mean my comment quoted in Skanky's own sig.

	19-03-2003 05:13									#32
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard SP - yes, if comparing results with others

That would essentially be a form of multiplayer, playing the game in parallel.

	19-03-2003 06:23									#33
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didn't think about it that way

	19-03-2003 17:02									#34
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Do you think, that saving and reloading the same game after loss is cheating? If so, try to pass Space Rangers with no saves.

	19-03-2003 17:43									#35
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That is not cheating. Commandos would be a nightmare to complete without the opportunity to save.

	19-03-2003 17:47									#36
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Saving and reloading in Commandos, and saving and reloading because you don't like it that your unit lost to the comp's attacking unit in Civ are 2 very different things.

	19-03-2003 17:49									#37
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I like making my Green Beret or Sapper go psycho when I know I'm about to die.

They can do a lot of damage, and sometime I don't die they are so destructive!

	19-03-2003 18:54									#38
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No, it isn't. It ruins the playing experience, so it's not smart, but it's not wrong, either.

	20-03-2003 09:31									#39
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Cheating in a single-player game is like masturbation. Sure, it may be fun, but you're only cheating yourself.

	20-03-2003 17:39									#40
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I don't think we want to hear the cheating in multiplayer comparison. Especially given the gaming partners many of us have.

	20-03-2003 18:07									#41
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I don't cheat in my games, SP or MP. It's not that I think it is morally wrong, I just don't find it as much fun as I do when I'm playing fair.

But in Deus Ex, I wanted to explore some other variants in the game story, so I used some cheats to explore that variants without the constraints of following the game mechanics. But I only did it after I had finished the game first.

	20-03-2003 18:16									#42
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Yeah I did that as well, but the choices made no difference.

It was seamlessly done, but it was essentially a linear story, albeit a very compelling one.

	20-03-2003 21:19									#43
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But it was cool to save Paul Denton and then meet him again in Hong Kong.

	20-03-2003 21:24									#44
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My strategy was to see how many people I could kill and still get away with it.

	20-03-2003 21:41									#45
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Multiplayer cheating is wrong, or would you like to have people going around knowing what the opponent is precisely doing?

	21-03-2003 02:30									#46
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I don't know if it is morally wrong, but I always feel a little guilty when I foil probe AIs in SMAC.

	21-03-2003 02:57									#47
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike My strategy was to see how many people I could kill and still get away with it.

Are we still talking computer games?

	21-03-2003 03:03									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch Are we still talking computer games?

Don't worry SD, you're not on my list. Though if you post once more about why 'curse' is better than 'escape' I'd consider adding you.

	21-03-2003 03:08									#49
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I'd better post twice more to avoid that "once more" threat then.

BTW Curse is far better than Escape.

	21-03-2003 03:10									#50
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* DrSpike adds SD anyway for being a smartass.

Edit: Btw it's not.

	21-03-2003 05:23									#51
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quote: Cheating in a single-player game is like masturbation. Sure, it may be fun, but you're only cheating yourself.

I don't consider cheating in SP 'fun', I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but...

quote: But in Deus Ex, I wanted to explore some other variants in the game story, so I used some cheats to explore that variants without the constraints of following the game mechanics. But I only did it after I had finished the game first.

I've used this... tactic in other games than Deus Ex, and I don't think that it would ruin playing, since games tend to get repetitive if you start playing them again... especially RPG's and FPS'.

quote: Multiplayer cheating is wrong, or would you like to have people going around knowing what the opponent is precisely doing?

As Tass said, read the thread.

quote: My old sig. was a Keynes quote, and I don't think he and Skanky were acquainted. You probably mean my comment quoted in Skanky's own sig.

...erm? Care to elaborate a bit, I am now totally confused...

	21-03-2003 12:39									#52
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In single player, cheating isn't 'morally wrong'. With Civ2, I turned the cheats on, but only after I'd beaten the game many, many times. It's fun to play around with.

Now, multiplayer is a whole other story but since the poll was for SP, I won't go there.

	21-03-2003 21:12									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch BTW Curse is far better than Escape.

Secret and MI2 are both far superior anyway

	22-03-2003 03:47									#54
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Cheats can be fun if you want a quick game. I occasionally use the 10000 minerals/vespene gas cheat in Starcraft to speed up the game and unit production.

I'm not looking to play a real game here, I just want to kill some Zerg for an hour or so. What's immoral about that?

	22-03-2003 04:03									#55
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I have to use a cheat program to make Rebellion playable...

	22-03-2003 08:07									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I have to use a cheat program to make Rebellion playable...

Remind me to never play a game against you then.