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Japher
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Ook! Ook! Ack! Ack! Ack!
Jun 2002
time: 05:26
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we know that god didn't write the bible, people have taken credit for it
i have seen no signs that god is false or true, so i will remain undecided and vote banana.
yet, if god is false then that would logically lead to the bible being false. the big whammy is if the bible is true but god is false.
the bible should not be used as a reference to prove or disprove anything. it is a bunch of good stories that present a rather pleasant way to live your life, if taken in part. this is what most religions, based on the bible, have done.
personally, i think a lot of the bible could be true, but in the same tone a lot can be false. it is a product of the oxymoron my dad call "realistic fiction".
personally, i will not condone any religion that would even think of persecuting, harming, torturing, or singling out anyone, for any reason, regardless of how many yahoos follow or worship it. besides, the idea of worship is just silly to me.
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rah
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Apolyton Prince of Moderators, Master of Reason
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Lord of the Ferrets
Jan 1970
time: 23:26
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Whether he inspired or not is really immaterial to me.
WAY WAY to many people take it literally, and with all the conflicting passages, use it to justify some real horrible thing. I gotta generally agree with Japher
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Originally posted by Japher
personally, i will not condone any religion that would even think of persecuting, harming, torturing, or singling out anyone, for any reason, regardless of how many yahoos follow or worship it. besides, the idea of worship is just silly to me. |
I'll concede that there are some exceptions. But the church shouldn't be persecuting those, the police should be 
And I have a problem with any religion that says your religion must be wrong if it's different. Especially if they feel the need to kill you to make their point.
RAH
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Japher
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Ook! Ook! Ack! Ack! Ack!
Jun 2002
time: 05:26
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I guess, though, if you are to argue the point one cannot say that because I don't believe in the bible that you can't hold it up as your reason.
I would be in the wrong arena playing the wrong game, and to me I would win, and to them, they would win.
I was playing chess, when I along I sould of been playing checkers.
Thus, my argument to discret most of the createns out there who bash gays based on religious beliefs: If you aren't going to argue with the whole of the bible then don't bring it up at all, and if you want to use the whole of the bible then you are WRONG.
As for if Satan is really the good:
Naw, they are both a little of both. Made in his own image, we are a little odd.
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Ben Kenobi
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McGregornobi!
Oct 2002
time: 21:26
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WAY WAY to many people take it literally, and with all the conflicting passages, use it to justify some real horrible thing. |
Rah:
WAY WAY too many Catholics fail to read the bible at all, and get the wrong impression.
If you want, I can try to resolve some of these conflicts.
Japher:
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I would go ask the Pastor what he means by that sign, and then ask him to remove it. If he doesn't I would call the cops, and tell them that sign advocates violence.
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So freedom of speech applies to everyone but Christians?
There's a little passage that says love the sinner, hate the sin. That's just another way of saying what that Baptist church does.
Thorn:
Consider this. You ignore the sign, no one will pay attention, since this is just part of everyday life. Blow up the sign, and you will attract massive attention to the Christian message, and way more publicity than this would have gotten otherwise.
It's your choice. 
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