19-03-2003 18:03									#121
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All you really need to do is get laid.

BTW where's the waves breaking balls busting Austrian Navy?

	19-03-2003 18:17									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka ...since we are masters of camoflagueing and cold hearted killers!

Well, I was disgusted by entirely different reasons, if you know what I mean. We sure are masters of camouflaging and stack-bunk making (pinkka-punkka), but I'm not so sure about the latter one though.

	19-03-2003 19:03									#123
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quote: Originally posted by Verto

Just curious - this is somehow faked, isnīt it? I mean even on supersonic speed jets donīt create such "things" or am I wrong?

Looks to impressive to be true....

	19-03-2003 19:15									#124
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident These are cruisers.

I've always wondered about the western designations of some ships as cruisers. The only 'real' cruisers (size-wise) built in modern times (yes I know how old they are now) were the Kirov-class.

	19-03-2003 19:19									#125
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I have spent quite some time under the course of supersonic fighers, and I've never seen such a thing. Besides, the pic under was a CG, so I suppose it is a fake as well.

Oh, and for the sake of it :
LIBERIA LIBERIA LIEBRIA !

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	19-03-2003 19:28									#126
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Cruisers do other things than just air defence or ASW IIRC so if it also has alot of anti ship or cruise missles it will be probably designated a cruiser

	19-03-2003 20:08									#127
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Pink bazooka??

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	19-03-2003 20:19									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Jeltz Well, I was disgusted by entirely different reasons, if you know what I mean. We sure are masters of camouflaging and stack-bunk making (pinkka-punkka), but I'm not so sure about the latter one though.

But it's important to hide yourself as good as possible.. if you have a chance. What's the point of doing guerilla war if you wear those bright red hunter jackets? .
Well since we are not lovers, we have to be killers, right?

	19-03-2003 20:21									#129
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quote: Originally posted by TheStinger Cruisers do other things than just air defence or ASW IIRC so if it also has alot of anti ship or cruise missles it will be probably designated a cruiser

So you're making the case for function defining class. I suppose that makes some sense. For conventional (non missile) ships: function -> displacement = class.

Certainly, a modern missile cruiser is a more lethal weapon system than a similarly-sized conventional warship.

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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Just curious - this is somehow faked, isnīt it? I mean even on supersonic speed jets donīt create such "things" or am I wrong? Looks to impressive to be true....

That's how i remember it looking. i was in for four years. the navy would do fly bys for vistors on the ship. i remember it looking something like that.

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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH So you're making the case for function defining class. I suppose that makes some sense. For conventional (non missile) ships: function -> displacement = class. Certainly, a modern missile cruiser is a more lethal weapon system than a similarly-sized conventional warship.

I think so. The UK doesn't have cruisers anymore. We have ASW frigates and anti aircraft destroyers. ALthough they do have helicopters with anti-ship capability. I would guess a cruiser would be a bit bigger because of the extra missle platforms

	19-03-2003 20:31									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka ... Well since we are not lovers, we have to be killers, right?

I was referring to the "cold hearted" part. At least some of the instructors I had during my military service seemed like the type of people who would greatly enjoy killing if a war started in our country.

	19-03-2003 20:39									#133
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Of course. They get paid what.. Ylil gets paid 1500 euros per month. You have to be little crazy and gun hoe to really be there .

	19-03-2003 22:45									#134
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Here's my old best friend, the G3 rifle. 7,62 mm. It wouldn't surprise me if the Iraqis have some of these.

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	19-03-2003 22:52									#135
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7.62? weird.

	19-03-2003 23:05									#136
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too many 'cans, not enough aircraft

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	19-03-2003 23:10									#137
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A-10

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	19-03-2003 23:13									#138
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last one for now, F-15

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	19-03-2003 23:22									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Zylka mmmk I just vaguely remember stories of a British cruiser/destroyer being sunk off of Argentina by a single exeter missle Granted battleships have much heavier hulls... but the risk seems plausible

You're compareing Paper-thin modern hulls with the Battleships built in the '4-'s with hulls designed to take hits from 18 in shells.

Modern ships go for countermeasures rather than armor. The RN's defenses let the exocet in, which caused it to sink.

	19-03-2003 23:31									#140
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Oh, Coldwizard

Why don't you let those Pansy USAF pilots step aside and let the USN Aviators get to work?

	19-03-2003 23:33									#141
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 All you really need to do is get laid. BTW where's the waves breaking balls busting Austrian Navy?

Look at the Swiss navy picture posted by Zopperoni in page 1 of this thread.

	19-03-2003 23:36									#142
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I'm not going to post pictures of guns. People already think I'm a nazi. But I will post a picture of where I lived for 4 years. This ship isn't in the gulf though. They are in the shipyards- as usual.

Hey I work on the Vent. mod back in 76 in MMR 2 I believe. 10 hours days, made some money.

	19-03-2003 23:39									#143
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I think that was the US Coast Guard.

	19-03-2003 23:42									#144
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I'm going to post this picture anyways. It relates to the gulf war ii as it was used for target practice. So I'm sure a ship in the persian gulf right now is better at aiming because of it . I can't believe I feel a little sad its gone. How could I associate feelings with an inaminate object. Maybe I'm just remembering the good times. But there weren't very many good times . Just a lot of hard work keeping this piece of **** going. It was my home though. I spent many hours on this rust bucket. I decommissioned this ship.

What ship is this one, because the Iwo Jima is tie up at Mare Island and has been there for maybe 4 or more years. The Iwo did an operation with us back in 63 in Hawaii. It was new then.

	19-03-2003 23:48									#145
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winged squids are interesting too

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	20-03-2003 00:05									#146
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HH-60

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	20-03-2003 00:07									#147
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Don't forget the Arm of Decision(tm)

	20-03-2003 00:11									#148
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1st Battalion, 508th Infantry

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	20-03-2003 00:17									#149
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I am reminded of Red Alert

	20-03-2003 00:23									#150
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Who here can forget the battle of Paris?