19-03-2003 03:15									#1
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Okay, this is the plan Dominae and myself have been bouncing around about the near-future for Apolytonia:

• After we finish the Granary, we will build 1 Warrior, which will be used to help start up our scouting efforts again, since poor W1 'BetaHound' was lost.
  
  
• After that Warrior, we will build our first Settler. W3 'Alva' in Apolyton will escort him to wherever his destination may lie, which shouldn't be too far from Apolyton.
  
  
• We will build 2 more Warriors, the first of which would be used for the defense of Apolyton, and the other will again be used for scouting.
  
  
• From then on, we will probably build one more set of 2 Warriors and a Settler, then focus on NM-Settler pairs until the situation requires that we change that.

	19-03-2003 03:19									#2
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Awesome plan guys!

	19-03-2003 03:22									#3
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I think if we make our first settler efforts westward - in effect "cutting off" the northern chunk of the continent for ourselves - and then use one warrior to sort of "clear the way" for any settlers we send out, we need not build NM-settler pairs- we can just scoot settlers out to the northern locations on their own. Yes, there is some slight risk if our warrior-patroller doesn't catch one, but that's a small risk. We need to do something vaguely risky and take a chance or two if we want to get into a position of power, not one of mediocrity.

I'd rather see our NMs garrisoning our southern front. If the Persians were amateur enough to lie about what's south of them, they might be amateur enough to try attacking the wrong early power.

	19-03-2003 03:26									#4
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I think a city at 1-1-1-1 (or is it three 1s?) would block off most of the northern peninsula... enough where if they tried to squeeze through the gap, we could give them some strong words. This city site also has the benefit of being one of the top choices for the MOI and others.

The idea is to use the NMs in case CDG ever gets a bit too anxious to do things in the future. We can use the Warriors as a skeleton defense force to protect from barbs or wandering scouts, while we can use our NM force to deal with CDG. Either that, or in case they want to sneak attack us, we'll have the NMs stationed in the south, as you pointed out.

	19-03-2003 03:29									#5
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Good plan !!! but i would not be too happy about leaving Apolyton undefended for any amount of time. I am assuming that we will be building a road to our second city site before the settler is finished so that Alva can be used for mutual defence of both cities in the turns Apolyton is undefended but I would still be nervous.

	19-03-2003 03:36									#6
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I would assume so. That's up to Dominae though, I suppose. It will only take us 2 or 3 turns to build another Warrior, so even so, it shouldn't be a big problem.

	19-03-2003 03:39									#7
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You have to assume that CDG and GC will be hunting for our cities soon, which means lots of warriors milling around and an undefended city would be too tempting.

	19-03-2003 03:41									#8
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Our next city should be out within, what about 10 turns? I don't see them mustering too much of an "exploration" or prodding force for a fair amount of time until after we'll have at least 2 Warriors per city.

	19-03-2003 03:49									#9
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Suppose so

	19-03-2003 06:20									#10
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Having read the fragment of the CDG chat of today (the 18th) and Togas' report on it, I am of the firm belief that we need a barracks soonest. Not in Apolyton, but in the second city preferably. That city should do Mercs.

We have a highly volatile neighbour to our south who have some... peculiar ideas on diplomacy and territory. We would be fools to assume that we will be able to live with them in peace.

	19-03-2003 06:27									#11
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Yes, I agree. Things have taken a turn for the worst. They continue to claim that our Warrior "will not pass through our lands." Something must be done.

	19-03-2003 06:52									#12
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And now they KNOW we are suspicious of them, we must prepare for a possible war. Yes to the barracks, and we may need to rethink our expansion plans with what is now a NERVOUS nation at our doorstep.

	19-03-2003 07:27									#13
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Having read the fragment of the CDG chat of today (the 18th) and Togas' report on it, I am of the firm belief that we need a barracks soonest. Not in Apolyton, but in the second city preferably. That city should do Mercs. We have a highly volatile neighbour to our south who have some... peculiar ideas on diplomacy and territory. We would be fools to assume that we will be able to live with them in peace.

Agreed!

And then there are those rabid barbarians still kicking around.

	19-03-2003 10:23									#14
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::cough::
::glances back two or three days where he reccomended making the second city a military production complex::
Guess my internet-MP experiences aren't quite so inapplicable.

	19-03-2003 10:30									#15
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F-P is a seer?

	19-03-2003 10:37									#16
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Look into the darkest recesses of your ambition, and then assume it in your foe- and you, too, will be a seer.

	19-03-2003 10:39									#17
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Pretty good, for a sentient amoeba.

Good to have you aboard, F-P.

	19-03-2003 11:18									#18
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The guantlet is close to being thrown. I must insist of the MOI that we build a Barracks first in our 2nd city. There is simply no other option in our situation. Even if CDG agrees, that means nothing. They've already shown themselves to have done whatever is in their best interests.