19-03-2003 04:39									#1
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Today, I was involved in a discussion with someone about Iraq. This person then asserted, "The US put Hitler in to power and we needed a war to get rid of him too." My jaw hit the floor. This person was dead serious. And what scares me, is that this person was the product of a good private-school and currently goes to Purdue. This conversation deeply concerned me about the future of this nation... because if somebody from that kind of background believes such nonsense, what hope is there from the rest of the country?

Anybody else recently have encounters with severe mental-retardation like this?

	19-03-2003 04:40									#2
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*holds tongue

	19-03-2003 04:50									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Today, I was involved in a discussion with someone about Iraq. This person then asserted, "The US put Hitler in to power and we needed a war to get rid of him too." My jaw hit the floor. This person was dead serious. And what scares me, is that this person was the product of a good private-school and currently goes to Purdue. This conversation deeply concerned me about the future of this nation... because if somebody from that kind of background believes such nonsense, what hope is there from the rest of the country? Anybody else recently have encounters with severe mental-retardation like this?

Did he explain it in any way?

Or were you both in monosyllable mode by then?

	19-03-2003 05:32									#4
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don't most left-wingers believe that

	19-03-2003 05:41									#5
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Most educated people have enough sense not to compare Saddam with Hitler, normally.

	19-03-2003 05:43									#6
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What I found interesting is he thinks that America is responsible for propping up every evil dictator including Hitler.

That is what struck me.

	19-03-2003 05:45									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Anybody else recently have encounters with severe mental-retardation like this?

Everytime I visit Apolyton.

	19-03-2003 05:48									#8
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everytime I go to an anti-war rally

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident What I found interesting is he thinks that America is responsible for propping up every evil dictator including Hitler. That is what struck me.

Erm, right, I actually didn't imagine someone culd even think that. In all my years of antiamericanism, I've never heard such a stupidity. I think these are the ramblings of a loonie, and Sava shouldn't worry about it except if he's a close friends or if several people begin to think so.

	19-03-2003 06:01									#10
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I don't see how he is wrong here.

Ford, GM, Curtis-Wright, etc. supported Hitler before and after he came to power. Ford, especially, had a big hand in bankrolling Hitler's party as early as the 20s and provided him with campaign funds during the early 30s.

This was of course mostly all business, but nevertheless.

EDIT: BTW, whoever asserts that Stalin brought Hitler into power, I urge you to please buy a clue. Thank you.

EDIT 2: For those who are interested, I'll respond to the "Was Stalin really evil?" thread when I have the time. Sorry for threadjacking.

Goodbye.

	19-03-2003 06:05									#11
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@ Dissident.

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident everytime I go to an anti-war rally

I thought it's every time you turn on Rush Limbaugh?

	19-03-2003 06:08									#13
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Yes, everytime I listen to Rush Limbaugh and he takes a call from a lib.

"War is, like, bad!"

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SPAMFIGHT!!!

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quote: Originally posted by Sava Anybody else recently have encounters with severe mental-retardation like this?

Only here at Apolyton...

	19-03-2003 06:14									#16
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Nah... I'm remembering one of Boris's old sigs.

	19-03-2003 06:20									#17
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I think the guy who said that was maybe referring to the stict measures that were taken at Versailles agains Germany after WW 1. Some historians say that at least helped Hitler getting to power because the people were frustrated because of the measures of Versailles and therefore voted Hitler.
But it's of course ridiculous to say the U.S put Hitler into power. The guy who said that just tries to explain every bad thing in the world as a result of the USA.
Plain stupid anti-Americanism

	19-03-2003 06:25									#18
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I think you guys are misunderstanding what this guy said. It wasn't anti-American in nature... this individual is very pro-war and pro-Bush.

	19-03-2003 06:26									#19
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How could the US have put Hitler in power? If anything, it was France. They demanded the strict and harsh sentences that would later give Hitler a way to power.

	19-03-2003 06:27									#20
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There goes my analisys...
Well, maybe he was drunk?

	19-03-2003 06:27									#21
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He (my friend) clearly asserted that the US installed Hitler as a dictator... directly. I tried to explain the rise of the Nazi party and fascism in Germany, Italy, and Spain, but by that point he was basically saying, "no you're wrong it was the US"

	19-03-2003 06:27									#22
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so basically he was just a dumbass.

It happens from time to time.

nothing to be shocked about.

	19-03-2003 06:29									#23
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I suppose...