19-03-2003 17:01									#1
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Yesterday, I left for work fat, dumb and happy and then...

1) Downstairs, the unions and managment met about possible upcoming budget cuts. Management stated it had nothing to report because nothing had been decided yet. (So far, so good)

2) The President of our local (a conservative Republican) resigned in protest over some of the ultraliberal actions taken by our union's regional counsel (opposing the war, criticizing Bush, organizing anti-war rallies, etc.)

3) As Vice-President of our local, I become the new President.

4) We learn that, as a budget-cutting measure, managment has begun a new practice of terminating every probationary employee who is about to become permanent and replacing them with a new hire. This new practice directly violates the union's contract.

There's probably about 50 of our members who will be affected by this. So in one friggin' day, I go from happy obscurity to becoming the point man for saving the obs of at least 50 people

WTF just happened here??

	19-03-2003 17:04									#2
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what union is that? im currently a teamster...fear my lazy hide!

	19-03-2003 17:16									#3
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Naw, mine is AFSCME (Association of Federal, State, County and Municipal Employees)--government employees.

You're safe. The world will always need teamsters.

	19-03-2003 17:29									#4
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thats only because teamsters create their own demand

but damn, how are you gonna deal with all of this? heavy drinking, or heavy handed negotions or both? good luck!

	19-03-2003 18:16									#5
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Both is sounding really good about now.

I do have a major ace up my sleeve. The decision to get rid of our people was made by some mid-level administrator who has no authority to set policy.

Sacramento has declared that layoffs should be a last resort. The Executive Board which sets policy here in L.A. County hasn't addressed cost-cutting measures yet. I know some of the people on the Board and they would be dead set against getting rid of experienced people.

I'm trying to set up a meeting with the manager who suposedly announced this policy. As soon as I can absolutely nail down that fact that this is happening & if she doesn't back down, I'm going to the members of the Exec. Board and let them know that their managers are instituting practices that violate the Board's polices and that violate the union contract.

	19-03-2003 18:25									#6
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Good luck. You're my new hero.

	19-03-2003 18:31									#7
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It took a turn for the better.

	19-03-2003 18:46									#9
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Quick, endorse the Labor Party!

	19-03-2003 18:51									#10
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the US has a labor party?

	19-03-2003 18:53									#11
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A very small one. It doesn't run in elections, yet. Each state needs to have 5,000 members before it can make the decision to run. Thus, if Zkribbler endorses, California's Labor Party membership jumps towards that goal (although I suspect CA already has members in spades).

	19-03-2003 19:29									#12
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Wow, good luck !

	19-03-2003 19:30									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler I do have a major ace up my sleeve. The decision to get rid of our people was made by some mid-level administrator who has no authority to set policy.

Good. Go get em. I hate pencil-neck Eichmanns.

Now for a stirring rendition of Joe Hill.

[Sgt-Major voice] I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night...... [/Sgt-Major voice]

	19-03-2003 19:56									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler We learn that, as a budget-cutting measure, managment has begun a new practice of terminating every probationary employee who is about to become permanent and replacing them with a new hire. This new practice directly violates the union's contract.

Your government practices (or tries to) this dispicable
practice? You should warn the new people.

	19-03-2003 20:53									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Ozz You should warn the new people.

We've gotten reliable reports from two different sources, but before I cause a panic, a want to absolutely pin down that this is now the court's policy...and if not, why is one of our people being terminated at the end of the week. Once I know this is happening the word will go out big time!

Thanks for your support everyone--especially you SpencerH. Your stirring rendition of Joe Hill reminded me of the bloody Pullman strike and other hardships working people have had to endure to obtain decent working conditions. It's scary for me to go up against some of the bigger guns at work, especially because they don't fight fair. But you've reminded me that I can always strap a copy of the history of the labor movement to my spine if it needs stiffening.

	19-03-2003 20:55									#16
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Can I marry you Zkribbler?

	19-03-2003 22:23									#17
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You guys are idolizing a Union Prez?!?
Don't you know that his life is nothing but "conferences" in Vegas, binge drinking and kickbacks?
Ah, deluded youth.

	19-03-2003 22:35									#18
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quote: Don't you know that his life is nothing but "conferences" in Vegas, binge drinking and kickbacks?

Why do you think we're idolising him?

	19-03-2003 22:47									#19
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Mr President, if I become a liberal, can I have a job?

	20-03-2003 00:10									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler Once I know this is happening the word will go out big time!

Did that manager come from K-mart, sounds like the
old "manager-trainee" routine were they hire you,
work yer arse off for the probation then fire you the
last day, and have another sucker starting their first
day as you go out the door.

	20-03-2003 01:54									#21
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There is power,
There is power,
There is power in the union way

	20-03-2003 02:13									#22
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This year....vote AECCP!


Seriously, if they broke the contract, nail their asses to the wall.

	20-03-2003 02:14									#23
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Get 'em Zkribb....

	20-03-2003 02:34									#24
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The only thing I hate worse than Unions and union bosses...



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is gutless, chickenshit excuses for "managers" and the kinds of employers that make the existence of unions necessary.

Nail 'em to the wall!

	20-03-2003 02:39									#25
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Ha, Union Chief! Just don't be one of those corrupt ones .

Sad thing that the regional union's politics made your previous President resign in protest. Sad stuff when the union gets involved in political issues that has nothing to do with working conditions, etc.

Remember, Ronald Reagan was a union president. Maybe you could follow in his footsteps .

	20-03-2003 02:41									#26
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What was he, in charge of the Screen Actors Guild?

	20-03-2003 02:42									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger What was he, in charge of the Screen Actors Guild?

Yep. He got there by naming names in the '50's.

	20-03-2003 02:42									#28
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Yep... for 7 terms, IIRC.

	20-03-2003 02:44									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Yep. He got there by naming names in the '50's.

Wonderful. Are you serious?

He aided and abetted HUAAC?

	20-03-2003 02:45									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Wonderful. Are you serious? He aided and abetted HUAAC?

I suppose I cvould be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm right.

Doesn't change the fact that he was a great President...."The man who won the war".