20-03-2003 17:37									#61
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--"Why would it not be the US?"

Mostly the level of tech involved. US agencies like the true cutting-edge sexy tech. Sticking a couple taps on the phone line isn't nearly as sexy as hitting the office with a laser microphone from five miles away or tapping the fiber running into the building.

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	20-03-2003 17:40									#62
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Not to mention, how would they find someone to go on such a daring mission, possibly confronting Eurocrats?

Well, maybe if they asked the Mossad....

	20-03-2003 18:04									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Wraith --"Why would it not be the US?" Mostly the level of tech involved. US agencies like the true cutting-edge sexy tech. Sticking a couple taps on the phone line isn't nearly as sexy as hitting the office with a laser microphone from five miles away or tapping the fiber running into the building. Wraith No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up

Did you note that they had been there almost 10 years. I would call it pretty state-of-the-art to keep them hidden that long.

	20-03-2003 18:37									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Wraith Mostly the level of tech involved. US agencies like the true cutting-edge sexy tech. Sticking a couple taps on the phone line isn't nearly as sexy as hitting the office with a laser microphone from five miles away or tapping the fiber running into the building.

Mainly because laser mikes don't work very well. The best way to accomplish it is to send a gift, maybe a crystal pillar or something, that has been precisely measured and the mikes tuned to it. Besides that, laser mikes are easy to defeat.

	20-03-2003 18:38									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Hurricane Did you note that they had been there almost 10 years. I would call it pretty state-of-the-art to keep them hidden that long.

Passive bugs, or ones that are remotely activated, are very hard to detect.

	21-03-2003 02:21									#66
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I just wander what would have happened if you find the Senate being bugged?

	21-03-2003 02:25									#67
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I'd be quite surprised if the NSA weren't sniffing on Senate communications too.

	21-03-2003 02:28									#68
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Aren't they supposed to know what is going on?

If you are the security... well they should be able to trust you...

or should they?

	21-03-2003 02:45									#69
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quote: Originally posted by GePap So the jews knew!!! Just what the anti-semites wnated to hear, and from Siro....

I didn't say anyone knew.

I said that several sources I read (non-israeli) reported that Israeli mossad may have tracked several al-qaeda members and may have had some idea about such intentions - which they passed on to the CIA , as the source said.

quote: The problem Siro is that it seems your intellifgence services were more riddled with soviet spies than the US's,

One. We had one major soviet spy.

You had 400. (according to something i read recently)

quote: and thw POllard case was very damaging.

i agree. he was a major jerk in general, and he should sit his time.

look, just because you're our best friends, doesn't mean we don't want to know what you are doing, that might not always suit our interests.

quote: Besides, with all the free info and money we give Israel, whats the deal? Ha Man?

money is not the same as info.

and we give you lots of info too. plus tactical and strategic advice in anti-terror and urban combat/

	21-03-2003 03:08									#70
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Haha, great! I expect a new John le Carré novel coming out any day now