20-03-2003 20:33									#31
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Where a shirt to work that says, "Saddam isn't so bad, give peace a chance!"

	20-03-2003 20:49									#32
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quote: Originally posted by rah Congrats.

In a city I wouldn't be a problem, but I live pretty far out
and their are'nt many mainframe computers out here, (also not many programmers willing to be out here.)

Nearest college is 60 miles (nightschool sucks at that distance) and we have gotten a "new management style
" at work, which works out to be don't spend any money and harass the employees to make up for short staffing.

Well, they're really going to be short-staffed in 2 weeks

	20-03-2003 20:57									#33
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Yes, with the economy/job market being bad, it's quite easy to abuse employees now. (where are they going to go) I was disgusted the other day when I heard a fellow manager say "F**k um, what are they gonna do, quit?"

But those that abuse will eventually pay the price when things get better.

	20-03-2003 21:38									#34
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quote: Originally posted by rah "F**k um, what are they gonna do, quit?"

Yup, or Form a union, in a big shop.

This is a small shop, was 5 programmers, 3 Techs
now 1 (me), soon zero. That leaves the manager,
(who can't program even a query) and the operators.

4 Programmers and 3 techs quit.

Think they would have clued in about 2 or 3.

	20-03-2003 22:59									#35
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Ever see Fight Club?

Or, introduce your boss to your imaginary friend Harvey, and that Harvey has been doing some work for you around the office and you think it would be a good idea to hire him on as an aide.

	21-03-2003 00:45									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Ozz Think they would have clued in about 2 or 3.

Yes, it never ceases to amaze me when people are bolting left and right, that upper management never seems to blame the manager. The corralation should be obvious.

RAH
Good one Japher, I'll have to remember that one.

	21-03-2003 00:58									#37
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quote: Originally posted by rah Yes, it never ceases to amaze me when people are bolting left and right, that upper management never seems to blame the manager

We've had 6 managers in 4 years.
3 ex-programmers - quit
2 shopforemen/project managers -fired

Big crosshairs on #6 on.

They asked me twice, but my terms are too... unpalatable.