20-03-2003 03:28									#1
	Al Gore joins Apple's board of directors Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

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quote: Al Gore joins Apple's board By Ian Fried Staff Writer, CNET News.com March 19, 2003, 1:38 PM PT Apple Computer on Wednesday named former Vice President Al Gore to its board of directors. In a statement, CEO Steve Jobs noted that Gore is an avid Mac user who edits his own videos using Final Cut Pro. Gore was chosen as a director at a meeting of Apple's board earlier Wednesday. "Al brings an incredible wealth of knowledge and wisdom to Apple from having helped run the largest organization in the world--the United States government," Jobs said. "Al is going to be a terrific director and we're excited and honored that he has chosen Apple as his first private sector board to serve on." In a statement, Gore praised Jobs for rebuilding Apple. "Steve and his team have done an incredible job in making Apple once again the very best in the world," Gore said. "I have been particularly impressed with the new Mac OS X operating system and the company's commitment to the open-source movement. And I am especially looking forward to working with and learning from the great board members who have guided this legendary company's inspiring resurgence." Since losing his bid to become president, Gore has been a senior adviser to Google. He also is a visiting professor at the University of California, Los Angeles; Fisk University; and Middle Tennessee State University. The former veep is a noted champion of technology who helped popularize the term "information superhighway." However, he also earned the scorn of the tech community for once saying that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet." Gore fills a spot that has been open since Larry Ellison left Apple's board last year. The board is fairly unique in that it has no chairman. Apple was criticized in a BusinessWeek article last year as having one of the nation's worst boards, in part because at the time Jobs was on Gap's board and its CEO was also on Apple's board. Jobs has since stepped down from the retailer's board. Millard Drexler, who had been Gap's CEO, remains on Apple's board but is now CEO of retailer J. Crew.

Poor, poor Al.

	20-03-2003 03:30									#2
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Well, it seems apt. He did invent the internet, after all.

	20-03-2003 03:33									#3
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So does this mean that he quit politics for good?

	20-03-2003 03:34									#4
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Looking forward to some exciting new commercials featuring AL.

	20-03-2003 03:42									#5
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Imagine him in a quarter commercial. "from excitement to coma in 30 seconds".

	20-03-2003 03:42									#6
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quote: Originally posted by rah Looking forward to some exciting new commercials featuring AL.

WARNING! Oxymoron alert! WARNING!

	20-03-2003 04:05									#7
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Once again, Jobs' desire for celebrity overrides his common sense.

	20-03-2003 04:07									#8
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quote: Originally posted by rah Looking forward to some exciting new commercials featuring AL.

i can see it now:

quote: All new Macs come with a special program that re-does every computation several times no matter how important the decision may be. During the dozen or so re-computations, the entire computer stops and awaits the decision. Even after the final computation is made, some parts of the computer still try to recalculate the computation. I'm Al Gore, and i'm a sore loser

	20-03-2003 04:10									#9
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Sigh. Wish it was Bush instead.

	20-03-2003 04:28									#10
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Fitting.

After all, Bob Dole endorses Viagra.

	20-03-2003 05:04									#11
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Boy this made my day. First I read that Apple will chuck motorola for Intel CPUs, and now this.

Phase 1 of the assimilation has begun, soon all apple users will become PC users.

Mwhahahaha!

	20-03-2003 05:06									#12
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quote: First I read that Apple will chuck motorola for Intel CPUs

Really? I sure hope so...

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Really? I sure hope so...
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That what I saw in PCMag today. I've heard of it for awhile, but thought it just a silly joke.

From what I understand, it will be on high-end apple computers, like those that only run Photoshop, and are backwards compatable with Morty's CPUs as well as Intel's Itanium.

	20-03-2003 05:17									#14
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Another case of jobs for the boys from my perspective

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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 QUOTE: __________________________________________ Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Really? I sure hope so... __________________________________________ That what I saw in PCMag today. I've heard of it for awhile, but thought it just a silly joke. From what I understand, it will be on high-end apple computers, like those that only run Photoshop, and are backwards compatable with Morty's CPUs as well as Intel's Itanium.

There is a version of OS X that runs on Intel and has been for quite a while - that's old news.

The only problem Apple faces is Motorola's slacking. Once that's solved they'll be all right. If they aren't then I'm switching to Red Hat - nothing could get me back on Windows after the last time.

	20-03-2003 05:52									#16
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......and I thought Mac's couldn't get any worse

	20-03-2003 05:57									#17
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It is interesting that Apple would put a cheat on its board.

	20-03-2003 05:58									#18
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--"All new Macs come with a special program that re-does every computation several times no matter how important the decision may be."

You forgot that he'd have to point out that they're called algorithms...

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	20-03-2003 10:04									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Wraith You forgot that he'd have to point out that they're called algorithms...

Nice catch.

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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: First I read that Apple will chuck motorola for Intel CPUs Really? I sure hope so...

There was speculation they'd jump ship to AMD, but that's not valid anymore.

99% confidence that the G5 will be the IBM PowerPC 970. 64-bit, supports AltiVec, completely backwards compatible with the G3 and G4 PowerPC stuff. It's essentially a cutdown version of IBM's Power4 CPU with Altivec added.

Why else would they add an Altivec unit unless Apple was going to use it?

	20-03-2003 10:16									#21
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Al certainly likes to join a losing team for some reason...

	20-03-2003 11:47									#22
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SELL SELL SELL!

	20-03-2003 13:29									#23
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And in a related note in Hell, Ambrose Burnside has just signed up to be Musilini's Chief of Staff.

	20-03-2003 13:30									#24
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Not to inject a note of sobriety into the hijinks here, but this actually seems like a fine choice. Remember that Board members don't really do anything except provide oversight. All sorts of retired (or temporarily retired) politicians get appointed to boards, largely for their political clout and for the ability to hold them up to shareholdsers and say , "Ooo, look who we got." But here's a case where Apple did that with a guy who knows something about technology (the Internet crack aside, Gore really does know his stuff on computers, networking and public policy). I'm not particularly attached to either Apple or Gore, but this makes sense.

Now, if Oracle really does go ahead and appoint Bill Clinton to their Board...

	20-03-2003 15:23									#25
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quote: Apple was criticized in a BusinessWeek article last year as having one of the nation's worst boards, in part because at the time Jobs was on Gap's board and its CEO was also on Apple's board. Jobs has since stepped down from the retailer's board. Millard Drexler, who had been Gap's CEO, remains on Apple's board but is now CEO of retailer J. Crew.

if someone understood this, let me know

	20-03-2003 15:35									#26
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: Apple was criticized in a BusinessWeek article last year as having one of the nation's worst boards, in part because at the time Jobs was on Gap's board and its CEO was also on Apple's board. Jobs has since stepped down from the retailer's board. Millard Drexler, who had been Gap's CEO, remains on Apple's board but is now CEO of retailer J. Crew. if someone understood this, let me know

It's a conflict-of-interest thing, I suspect. Board members are supposed to provide oversight of the corporation on behalf of shareholders. But if the chairman of corporation A is on the board of corporation B, and the chairman of corporation B is on the board of corporation A, then they each have an incentive to not scutinize the other's corporation too closely. That's what was feared here: Drexler wouldn't raise a stink on the board of Jobs' company, because Jobs was on the board of Drexler's company and could do the same thing.

	20-03-2003 18:21									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Wraith You forgot that he'd have to point out that they're called algorithms...

I must be getting old/slow. It took a few minutes to get this one. Even with the post after it

RAH

	20-03-2003 19:38									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Asher There was speculation they'd jump ship to AMD, but that's not valid anymore. 99% confidence that the G5 will be the IBM PowerPC 970. 64-bit, supports AltiVec, completely backwards compatible with the G3 and G4 PowerPC stuff. It's essentially a cutdown version of IBM's Power4 CPU with Altivec added. Why else would they add an Altivec unit unless Apple was going to use it?

That's what I heard.

It's not like Gore is going to be a major player.

Anyway Apple are doing alright - I set up one of those new imacs for someone the other day: it's a really nice machine and I'm sure more of them will appear (everyone in that department wants one now). They have a loyal customer base and their prices are coming down. They are never going to be the dominant player in computing since they only compete in a few niche markets. It's not as if most computer makers are having a good time of it right now anyway.

And oddly enough, it is Apple that isn't playing nice with MS now instead of the other way around. Wonders will never cease.

	20-03-2003 20:35									#29
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Go, Gore, go. I wish he'd run in 2004, though.

	20-03-2003 22:21									#30
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Al Gore won the last election but is not the president.
Apple makes the best computers but doesn't have the market shares to show for it.
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