23-03-2003 11:17									#451
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Hi, FG
What about ITAR-TASS news agency?
(My translation)
"Cairo, March 23. /ITAR-TASS journalist Andrey Greshnov)
Arab chanel "Al-Alyam" just said that 20 American paratroopers were captured in Baghdad during landing.
No other sources confirmed it yet.

http://iraq.itar-tass.ru/today/title.html?2283

	23-03-2003 11:20									#452
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory http://www.cnn.com/virtual/editions...t.exclude.html. Another source Also, if anyone is in doubt the Iraqi's are routed from basrah. Watch the video on CNN front page. dozens of abandoned Iraqi tanks

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	23-03-2003 11:24									#453
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BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/sp...perations_1.stm

"US and British forces are confident that they are in control of Iraq's second city, Basra, BBC correspondent David Willis says"

	23-03-2003 11:25									#454
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I dont want to crowd this thread with commentary anymore.
But Itar-Tass is also known for somewhat bogus reporting during the kosovo crisis aswell. Please quote credible sources.

	23-03-2003 11:27									#455
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"ONDON, March 23 (Reuters) - A British aircraft went missing after completing a mission in the Gulf region, a Ministry of Defence spokesman said on Sunday.

"An RAF aircraft has gone missing after an operational mission in the Gulf," the spokesman told Reuters.

The spokesman said he could give no further details and did not know the type of aircraft involved or where it disappeared."

	23-03-2003 11:28									#456
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Please quote credible sources.

You mean pro-American sources?
No way. ITAR-TASS is the oldest Russian news agency and it's fine, as for me.

	23-03-2003 11:30									#457
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Fine but know that most of it is being made up.

Turn to Fox, about 12 Iraqi soldiers surrounded in house in Umm Quasr

Update. Its still on, BMP or BTR fired on marines behind berm (ON live TV). BMP was elimated. 3 Iraqi inhabitants dead. 4 US tanks surround the building about a 1/4 a mile away

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	23-03-2003 11:41									#458
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quote: Originally posted by Serb You mean pro-American sources? No way. ITAR-TASS is the oldest Russian news agency and it's fine, as for me.

Russian Media is under heavy government influence, and the Russian Republic itself has only been around for just over a decade. It doesn't quite have the same international reputation CNN and BBC do.

	23-03-2003 12:14									#459
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CNN: Umm Qassar supposed to be taked 2 days ago but fights to control the city remains.

	23-03-2003 12:18									#460
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Yes, but it seems to be a minor firefight. About 10 soldiers. On TV it simply seems to be a mopup mission.

	23-03-2003 12:18									#461
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CNN: 3 iraqi captured on battle for Umm Qassar. Fight continues... live coverage.. (aah the tecnology )

	23-03-2003 12:20									#462
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Its mop up operations. Note Iraqi's surrounded.

	23-03-2003 12:23									#463
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No, Fox news reported one of the captured officers

"There are 120 Iraqi Republican Gaurd troops in there"

Wow...first engagement

	23-03-2003 12:34									#464
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Heavy Firefighting Breaks Out in Umm Qasr

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81904,00.html

	23-03-2003 12:40									#465
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Yep... looks like I was wrong... CNN has also said there are 120 Republican Guard in there. But apparently the Commander has surrendered.

	23-03-2003 12:44									#466
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RAF sources are now saying that their missing warplane may have accidentally been engaged and destroyed by a Patriot missile battery.

DAMMIT TO HELL if that's true.

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	23-03-2003 12:57									#467
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Yep... looks like I was wrong... CNN has also said there are 120 Republican Guard in there. But apparently the Commander has surrendered.

British reporter confirming on CNN that Commander that surrendered is Republican Guard.

	23-03-2003 13:05									#468
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Plus au sud, les forces coalisées se contenteraient de sécuriser les infrastructures pétrolières de Bassorah sans affronter directement la garde républicaine postée dans la ville.
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www.tf1.fr/news
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More in the south, the united forces would be satisfied to make safe the oil infrastructures of Bassorah without directly facing the republican guard posted in the city
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www.tf1.fr/news

	23-03-2003 13:06									#469
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New Battle Breaks Out in Iraqi Port of Umm Qasr
Sun March 23, 2003 12:55 AM ET
UMM QASR (Reuters) - A heavy firefight broke out between U.S. Marines and Iraqi forces in the southern Iraqi town of Umm Qasr on Sunday, one day after U.S. officials said they had won control of the strategic port, witnesses said.
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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=BZXUTLWAW2JR0CRBAEKSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=2430141

	23-03-2003 13:08									#470
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About Iraqi 120 Republican Guards under attack in Umm Qasr, commanders say.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/
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	23-03-2003 13:11									#471
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Warning: Maybe Rumor, Maybe True. I want no comment on that
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British Soldiers Surrender in Town Near Nasiriyadh: Iraq
Source: Peoples Daily Via Islamic Community Net

An unspecified number of British soldiers have surrendered in a small town near Nasiriyadh in southern Iraq, Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf said on Saturday
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http://www.jihadunspun.net/index-si...list=/home.php&

	23-03-2003 13:13									#472
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Russian Media is under heavy government influence, and the Russian Republic itself has only been around for just over a decade.

I guess you are refering to scandal around NTV TV chanel, which happened several months ago. Btw, this TV chanel an hour ago confirmed that 20 American commandos were captured in Baghdad today.

quote: It doesn't quite have the same international reputation CNN and BBC do.

Fine, in this case on the first page of this thread should be a message:
"*ATTENTION*
Everyone who gonna post here should know that news only from Fox, CNN and BBC allowed there. Everyone who will post news from any non-American source will be concidered as: a) Insane b) Terrorist c) Saddam Husein.
This thread is for white guys only, no mutants allowed"

	23-03-2003 13:13									#473
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper RAF sources are now saying that their missing warplane may have accidentally been engaged and destroyed by a Patriot missile battery. DAMMIT TO HELL if that's true. Gatekeeper

It's apparently true ... confirmed by Pentagon sources as well.

	23-03-2003 13:13									#474
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Special forces in Baghdad as Saddam's armies reel
American special forces were reported to be in Baghdad as thousands of elite troops still loyal to Saddam Hussein prepared for a final bloody showdown in the Iraqi capital.
http://www.observer.co.uk/internati...,920070,00.html

	23-03-2003 13:15									#475
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Three U.S.-British Soldiers Killed In Omm Qasr…
Iraq TV Shows Saddam Meeting Three Times With War Advisors...
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http://www.islam-online.net/english/index.shtml

	23-03-2003 13:19									#476
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True:
09:21(+1:00GMT) The American central command (Centcom) in Qatar confirms that the plane of the Royal Air Force was touched by American a Patriot missile
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www.tf1.fr/news

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Everywhere in news it says heavy fight in Umm Qasr .... but since 2 days it suposed to be controlled by coalition...
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The Marines had just woken up and were eating breakfast when the ambush was launched.

"We were just having something to eat when suddenly this firefight broke out," Bowden said.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/...2274170,00.html
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	23-03-2003 14:17									#477
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guess bush was right. It wont be a cakewalk. This is pretty signaficant. If saddam is alive, he must be happy.




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quote: U.S. advance near Nassiriya blocked, fighting blamed SOUTHERN IRAQ, March 23 (Reuters) - Fighting on the outskirts of the southern Iraqi city of Nassiriya has blocked an advance by U.S. forces there, a Reuters reporter said on Sunday, quoting military sources. Correspondent Sean Maguire, traveling with the U.S. Marines south of the city, said members of a U.S. Marine task force had reported encountering resistance on the approaches, and that columns of black smoke were visible on the horizon. "We're blocked. We can't go ahead because of security concerns because of this resistance," Maguire said from his position about 30 km (19 miles) southeast of the city.

	23-03-2003 14:58									#478
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according to Reuters

Iraqi television is going to show captured enemy soldiers on televsion.

although I don't know of any they have captured...

	23-03-2003 15:33									#479
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Perhaps some of the captured pilots?
(My translation)
"Today Iraqi embassador in Russian Federaation Abbas Halaff said to ITAR-TASS reporter: "Three war planes of USA and UK were shot down today in Iraq. Two of them in skies over Baghdad."


http://www.iraqwar.ru/

	23-03-2003 15:38									#480
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like I'm going to believe that.

Iraq hasn't shot anything down.

Unfortunately only U.S. friendly fire is capable of shooting things down.