21-03-2003 08:21									#1
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This is my first victory, which is cultural.

Anyone have any suggestions om how I can improve?

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	21-03-2003 08:30									#2
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Can't look at your .sav right now, but congratulations!

	21-03-2003 08:36									#3
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I like cultural wins. The leaders all kiss you and shake hands with you. Ah, such a delight!

Even more fun is a diplomatic victory!

	21-03-2003 14:33									#4
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Ah the first win It's always a good feeling when you know you are the best
Congratulations may many many more follow.

	21-03-2003 19:03									#5
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quote: Originally posted by pedrojedi I like cultural wins. The leaders all kiss you and shake hands with you. Ah, such a delight! Even more fun is a diplomatic victory!

I think that cultural and diplomatic victories were interesting additions to the game, but the way they were implemented is far from satisfactory or rewarding to the player. The diplomatic victory, in particular, is a bland and uninteresting one.

If the UN could function more like the Planetary Council in SMAC it would be cool.

	21-03-2003 19:14									#6
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Hmmh. Don't have time to look at your .sav. Can you tell me what level of difficulty it was?

	21-03-2003 20:16									#7
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I hate diplomatic and raise the city of containing it if I can.

If you lose the vote thier should be an option that you can refuse to accept it but evryone else decalres war and will not make peace.

	21-03-2003 20:36									#8
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Congrats! Only way is to play more. The more you play the better you get. And the higher levels you play on the more points you make.


Spec.

	21-03-2003 20:46									#9
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but you're cutting it rather fine. You would be facing a histographic loss in 2050.

Since noone else wants to make any suggestions I suppose I'll try.

1. Build more settlers, faster

I assume you know you need to expand faster. The Civ3 AI is rather aggressive about this and the result is that they're all bigger than you on Chieftain.

You don't need big cities early on or that many improvements or too big a military early unless you attack. More cities would help all that eventually anyway. So give settlers a higher priority.

2. Put your cities closer together.

I don't like to see that your wasting space in your empire even at the end of the game. So inefficient!
Even bad terrain can be improved if you have enough workers (which you probably need more of.)
Even having your settlers, workers and other units travel less far helps. Corruption gets worse further away from your capital too.

0. Most importantly, more practice.

But then what did you buy the game for anyway?

	22-03-2003 01:06									#10
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puf, more settlers, just invade the other civs cities (btw don't take this advice to seriously)

	22-03-2003 01:10									#11
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That's actually not bad advice. Occasionally, you'll be placed in a situation(such as getting horsemen or other units from huts) where you have the opportunity knock a civ out of the game early on.

	22-03-2003 01:16									#12
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it isn't???? wow, i thought it sucked

	22-03-2003 01:20									#13
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Well, like I said, depends on the situation. I'm not saying your strategy should be plunk down a settler and crank out mil units. Ah, never mind.

	22-03-2003 01:26									#14
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Well it should

	22-03-2003 02:56									#15
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It would be easier, that's for sure.

	22-03-2003 06:45									#16
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OK so in my current game as the Russians, I started with Manya's strategy and at one point had seven cities after building only one settler and that wasn't from my capital.

But that doesn't mean I'd have done that in Agamennon's game.

	22-03-2003 07:23									#17
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Agamennon--
Yer choice of Russia is interesting, but may be why it took so long to win. Comm/Ind civs have great growth potential early on (France, Carthage). Some don't like to play as comm/ind civs, but I always have a good time with them.
Conquest victories are great (altho' they make me feel all icky) Try 'em next --Rob

BTW: congrats

	22-03-2003 08:15									#18
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I just had my first win and it too was a cultural one. Of course it was at the lowest difficulty level so not all that surprising.

I found the cultural victory kind of anti-climatic. I would have liked to have seen a little something more...something...any way, now I will try at higher levels.

	22-03-2003 08:25									#19
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Woohoo, another opportunity to wear my party hat!

	22-03-2003 08:34									#20
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Domination victory kinda sux.

	22-03-2003 09:44									#21
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I managed my first win on Monarch a few weeks back. Cultural with the Egyptians. That might sound pathetic but I have had the game for over a year and haven't had the time to play it all that much. I think I've played about six complete games (starting from the basic level which was easy).

What am I supposed to do on Emperor level. I just get hopelessly behind no matter what (building the GL doesn't seem to help).

Does any one else like Marines, Paratroopers and Choppers as much as I do? I like dropping them into mountains to secure a base from which to smite cities. Plus the Marines look so cool.

	22-03-2003 19:02									#22
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Marines Paratroops Choppers

That's all i can say

	22-03-2003 22:36									#23
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they may not be that good, but none can deny that they are cool!

	22-03-2003 23:10									#24
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quote: Does any one else like Marines, Paratroopers and Choppers as much as I do? I like dropping them into mountains to secure a base from which to smite cities. Plus the Marines look so cool.

There's not a single reason not to use tanks, if you have the resources, which kinda like sucks.

	22-03-2003 23:27									#25
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Besides by the time tanks are on, i already conquered most of the land and for sure i will have oil.

Btw, the are cool but useless

	23-03-2003 00:31									#26
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quote: Btw, the are cool but useless

Tanks should not be able to move in the jungle

	23-03-2003 00:46									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Tanks should not be able to move in the jungle

By the time I have tanks, there's no jungle left on the planet

	23-03-2003 00:47									#28
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quote: By the time I have tanks, there's no jungle left on the planet

I'm talking about the enemy territory, here

	23-03-2003 00:49									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu I'm talking about the enemy territory, here

By that time there are no enemy land left

	23-03-2003 00:55									#30
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quote: By that time there are no enemy land left

You always want to get the last word, don't you?
If there's no land left, you don't have to use neither the marines OR tanks. Problem solved