18-01-2000 02:40									#1
	Star Wars Modback ready for testers! Tired of ads?

Well, I posted this on the "Star Wars Modpack" thread, but no one replied, so I guess no one saw it there.


I'd just like to say this: The Star Wars MOD pack has NOT been abandoned. As we speak, I'm finishing the very LONG readme that will explain it all. Here is the link
http://matrix.crosswinds.net/~jay1256/ACPage.htm

Scroll down to the "downloads" section.

Please either email me or respond here if you download it. That way, I can get a good count of who's testing, plus I know who to credit in the next readme.

	28-01-2000 03:29									#2
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Well, since NO ONE has posted here, I'll assume you guys no longer like the idea. I'm going to stop wasting time drawing those blasted cities if you're not even going to say you downloaded it to try it out.

	28-01-2000 15:59									#3
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Sorry Jasonian, but at least I downloaded and liked it. Hopefully you're not ending the project because of this...

	29-01-2000 10:57									#4
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Check your mail

	28-01-2000 23:57									#5
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Both of you,

Thanks for commenting. I wanted this thread not to be a place for reviews, but simply a place for me to see if anyone at least tried it out.

This is quite a big project. The download only contains the bare necisities to run it. The full version will have fully customized faction graphics, new interludes, altered names, even more new units w/ graphics, a slew of new pictures (Satalite battle = Death Star trench run, Base seizure = Droids marching into Theed on Naboo, ect ect), at least three scenarios, some altered and advanced terraforming graphics, and more stuff.

It's a lot. It's going to be way bigger then any of the mods our right now, and it is going to totally change the way that Alpha Centauri looks, feels, and plays. I just want to make sure that people are at least trying it out so that interest has not been lost.

DinoDoc,

Got the mail, and I hope to hear some helpful criticism from you (Please help me fix that stupid 'Jedi Council' faction!)

	02-02-2000 01:30									#6
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I downloaded the file, but I'm having problems with SMACX. A little ways into the startup, I get a fatal error message. It reads, "Unable to allocate to draw-buffer; terminating program" or some such fiddle-faddle. I have, however, taken a look at the Units.pcx file, and a couple of the faction files, and they look pretty good.

Hopefully, I'll get SMACX to work properly so I can try your modpack. By the way, when do you hope to have the whole thing finished?

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	02-02-2000 02:48									#7
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Hmm... do you get that message every time? I may have left out a critical file in the download if you do.

As of when it will be complete... darned if I know. The graphics are what is slowing me down. I have all the faction leader and HQ pics done, five of the logos in place, and four of the cities. I'm still toying with special abilities, but that's not a big deal.

	04-02-2000 10:59									#8
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No, the message was appearing before I downloaded your file.

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	04-02-2000 10:59									#9
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No, the message was appearing _before_ I downloaded your file.

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	04-02-2000 03:06									#10
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Ok, so it wasn't my modback. That is a relief! I hope you get that problem solved soon.

MODPACK UPDATE:

Factions
(Cities=base graphics, Symbol=symbol created and placed in all places in file 1, files 1,2,3, txt=the four files for each faction)

Jedi: Cities, Symbol
Naboo: Cities, Symbol, files 1,2,3,& txt FINISHED
Rebels: Cities, Symbol, files 1,2,3, & txt FINISHED
Empire: Cities, Symbol, files 1,3 & txt
Federation: txt
Freelance: txt
Republic: Symbol, files 1,3 & txt


Interludes: several complete
'Pop-up' pictures: ongoing (I'm always looking for more. When I get the rest done, I'll just stop this as is)
New techs: FINISHED
New unit types: FINISHED
New unit graphics: near completion
Monolith pictures: ongoing
alpha.txt modifications: FINISHED
New terraforming graphics: several complete
Scenarios: not started (will start when the rest is done and has been released)

That's the update. If anyone has some city-drawing talent or has cities for the FREELANCE (hives of scum and vilany), REPUBLIC (nice looking and tall), or FEDERATION (mechanized and efficient), please contact me!

	08-02-2000 02:07									#11
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What you might do for the Federation, is use the skyscraper graphics for the Sid & Brian factions that came with SMACX. After all, they look mechanized and efficient.

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	19-02-2000 00:14									#12
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It's been a while, and I still haven't gotten any feedback about actual gameplay yet, so I'll bring this back to the top.

I still lack those grahpics. Darn it all... oh. The Sid/Brian ones look too non-StarWarsish to be used. But a nice idea.

Come on people... someone comment!

	19-02-2000 02:40									#13
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Curse ye! I screeched, "Curse ye, Jasonian!" [sob sob sob cry cry cry] Now your wonderful work has made my Civ2 StarWars Rebellion-style game totally obsolete! Ah well, it's time for the rad pistol to the jawbone treatment...farewell, cruel world, etc etc.

Seriously though, my copy of AXfire gets upset with "NabEth" in the Naboo faction line. I didn't get the chance to look at anything else as this was the first thing I tried to do, so perhaps everything else is fine.

And... before you get too upset about this one, bear in mind that like most foolish novice scenario makers/players, I *totally neglected* to view the readme.txt!

But honestly, good work and whatever you do, don't give up because I for one am interested!

	20-02-2000 00:02									#14
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jasonian,

i downloaded your modpack but since i don't have SMACX i can't play test it...i did look over your factions, but they just didn't feel right to me, so i am going to post your factions and my proposed changes in the custom faction thread in AC general

korn469

	20-02-2000 02:18									#15
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Nope... I've pored over the readme.txt like a good little St Trinians schoolgirl, and I can only surmise that you've not bundled a few necessary techs in with the download.

Again, don't give up - I think your idea could go very far indeed. I've always wanted to be able to bring up the "UNITS WORKSHOP" menu and tinker with the following:

1) Chassis: Heavy starship

2) Armor: Titanium Plastisteel alloy

3) Shielding: Heavy ray - field arc

4) Weapons: Ion - Laser - Warhead

5) Power: Plasma (Star) drive

6) Special Power 1: Tractor beam

7) Special Power 2: Hyperspace

Prototype Name: "Imperial Class Star Destroyer"

Plus image of everyone's favorite wedge-shaped, ice-white starship spinning slowly round in the units slot!


Now that would be a screen worth paying money for!

	20-02-2000 04:23									#16
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*sigh* How cool that would be to have Star Destroyers. But you get AT-AT's, Death Stars, and snowspeeders, so that should be good enough... I hope.

Any ideas are warmly welcomed.

	20-02-2000 06:13									#17
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Jasonian check the custom factions thread and tell me what you think

	20-02-2000 13:56									#18
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An idea for the scenario: I'm working on a StarWars scen for Civ2, which has the entire map more or less covered by ocean squares (space). In this big ocean are various single-square islands of land (planets) and a few barbarian immobile impassble and near-invincible units (stars).

Starships are like ships, and they can launch attacks on bases on different planets, but they can't take them over. Instead, they must carry ground troops (which are as ground troops in Civ2) which disembark to conquer a city. Artoo Units are spies, and starfighters are plane units (usually treated as fighter units, so they have to return each turn).

I know that at least one feature of the above can't be replicated in SMAC, namely that the ships cannot conquer sea cities (in SMAC, they can), but perhaps I've given you an idea that you can use in SMAC?

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	21-02-2000 04:24									#19
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Something similar like that came up a while back. Using some of AlexanderIII's "space mod" graphics, I was planning to create a world of SMACX---set in space.

This idea is tough and requires a lot of extra graphical construction. For the moment, it's not going to happen. But, if things go well... who know.

	21-02-2000 04:54									#20
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How are you going about altering the graphics? I tried to save graphics in the .pcx files for my custom factions, and was unable to do so satisfactorily. All my faction leaders came out greyscale.

I'm using PSPro - how have you tackled the problem?

	22-02-2000 20:34									#21
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... because I'm not using PSPro. I'm using MGI PhotoSuite, and everything works great.

	16-03-2000 23:30									#22
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Bumping to find out the current status.

	18-03-2000 01:56									#23
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Pretty much abandoned. I got to the point where I couldn't draw any more cities, and I didn't have any more symbols. So I put the whole thing in a folder and forgot about it.

If you want to download the 'low-tech' version, then I think the link in this tread still works...

	20-03-2000 10:31									#24
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Please finish! It sounds like you were more than halfway done, it's a shame to think all that work was for nothing! Here's a tip: if you can find a copy of Yoda Stories, it may have a lot of useful graphics for you, especially units. It was small, simple desktop game made by LucasArts, and it came with icon packs for you to customize your desktop with. I don't recall there being any cities or anything, and some of the character art may be too "cutesy" for your taste, but there's probably a lot of stuff you'd find useful. Don't give up, Luke...

	20-03-2000 00:27									#25
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The project was halted for a number of reasons:

1) The only feedback I ever got was "Good job" or "You're doing it all wrong. This is how I would have made it." Short of scraping the whole thing and starting over, neither of them are useful.

2) It takes me a LONG time to draw something and then place it into all the places it needs to go-- and make it look good. I average 1 picture a night if I work hard, and each faction has about 5 I need to do.

3) I don't have the time to do #2 above and still write a story, manage my micronation, finish my schoolwork, and still have somewhat of a social life.


I have the demo of Yoda Stories. It's all ice. I don't know how useful that would be...

	29-03-2000 23:23									#26
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The Demo wouldn't include the icon packs. The release version has icon packs for a lot of the units in the game; troopers and sandpeople and probe droids and even Luke and Yoda. The game itself has, I think, three environments; snow, desert, and forest. I don't remember a lot of buildings, but for units it would be good. The icon packs in the release version come as separate .ico files, I think, making them very easy to grab and manipulate. Also, I'd imagine that the LucasArts strategy game that came out a while back--I forget the name, something like Rebel Command?--would have some art for base icons in it. I haven't played it, though, so I can't be sure. But as it was a galaxy-conquering game, with planets and stuff, i'd imagine that it would have art for establishing bases on other planets, and the like.

I can understand your being discouraged by the amount of work. I wouldn't draw anything, myself, for this kind of thing. But I'm positive that, with all the Star Wars product available recently, and all the fan resources on the net, there's got to be a way to "steal" all the art you need. If you post a specific list of every piece of art you need, I'll try to find some of it for you.

	30-03-2000 02:31									#27
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Cities needed (just some concept art would be good enough)
FREELANCE (hives of scum and vilany), REPUBLIC (nice looking and tall), and FEDERATION (mechanized and efficient).

Symbols needed: FREELANCE and FEDERATION

Basic units needed: A nice small full picture of a Death Star (I or II)

That's pretty much all that is still needed.

	30-03-2000 11:58									#28
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Is that it? You don't need any other units? I'm assuming that you've already used that red-stylized-bird-looking thingy for the rebellion...

I'll try to see what I can dig up for you; it make take a week or so. I'll let you know...

	31-03-2000 03:59									#29
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Hey! Give me a break! I'm stuck, not lazy. Made four city sets and created three origonal symbols (along with the Empire and the Rebel ones) by myself. I just don't have the inspiration to finish it.

Any help would be appreciated and credited in the readme.

	31-03-2000 06:10									#30
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I wasn't meaning to give you a hard time; I can see how it sounded that way. I know very well how hard it is to maintain enthusiasm all the way through a project. You've done a lot so far. I'll try and help.