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theponyguy1 is offline theponyguy1
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expansion pack ideas Tired of ads?

Since BHG is wrapping up production on RON, and it doesn't seem like they are going to add more, I thought we'd make a list for what would be nice in an expansion pack or the sequal. Here are some ideas:

1. Make all buildings except cities 1.5 times times higher

2. Make roads a little wider

3. Have an option where player can choose to make edges of the
map black, instead of like a gameboard.

4. Make space shuttle wonder available in Modern Age

5. Have a space race winning condition

6. Be able to build statelites, that launched into the atmosphere and it would make a moving circle, a couple of tiles in diameter, have no fog of war.

7. In CTW, have leader artwork

8. In CTW, be able to build cities on the CTW map, and they actually appeared in the battles approximately where you put them.

9. In CTW, be able to build railroads to connect your territories.

10. In CTW, somehow make it seem that the player isn't just conquering territories, but running an empire.

11. Bombers, artillary and battleships have a bombard attack when they attack land (attacks that attack buildings next to the building being attacked).

12. Have a "carpet bomb" option, where you click on the city, and the bomber bombs a random building in the city.

13. Of course, governments

14. And last, but not least, unit outlines when behind buildingd or trees

HuangShang is offline HuangShang
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i dont really have any idea what all that is

Manya is offline Manya
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not even finished and already with an Exp. Pack, anyhow great ideas

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Aug 2001
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more civs like the Indians and Persians!

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to burn?

tniem is offline tniem
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An editable CTW game play. For instance, be able to play it in x number of turns or in x age or on x map. Maybe allow triggers to happen between battles i.e. a WWII CTW where winter comes and causes the Germans to lose a number of troops and with draw a couple territories.

MP CTW. Allow us to battle each other as we try to take the world.

Cardomain is offline Cardomain
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add more nations. Im sure theres a crap load of nations that would make it kick ass. Many new nations.

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At this moment, I think it is pretty safe to assume that there will be an expansion pack, from what BHG has been saying lately.

For instance, Doug Kaufman in Rise of Nations Insider:
quote:
Actually, we're still in the throes of the finishing touches to RoN, and thinking about any add-on packs we might want to do.


And Brian Reynolds in the Firing Squad interview:
quote:
Certainly as we go forward with sequels and expansion products then we’re definitely going to be going full bore on, um, “how can we take Conquer the World to the next level.” There were some things we thought were cool that we couldn’t do because of the relatively short schedule Conquer the World was developed on. But we’ll be revisiting CTW for sure.


Brian even says that BHG will be concentrated in RTS games in the future:
quote:
(...) RTS games will always be our core concentration (...)


This last bit is sort of disappointing to me, I really wanted to see Brian doing another TBS...

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well if u want TBS u could follow civ series into its next incarnation.

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Just out of curiousity, would could they do exactly for a expansion? They can't really continue it, because it already spans for 6000 years. Would they just add new gameplay mechanics, units, etc in the same enviroment?

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maybe an add-on would feature new nations, units, maps and scenarios, plus some added features in the "Conquer the World" mode.

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i think there should be 7 more nations added so there will be a nice round number of 25.... they should be, persia, india, hebrews/israel, iroqouise, u.s., vietnamn, and the philippines...

for now i whill touch on the nation the philippines for im a filapino...

all asians look alike, that is not neccissarily true... when ppl hear asians they think of chinese, japanese, koreans, and lo and behold they are nations in RON, but wait what about the southeastern asians, they are very different from china, japan, and korea,... why? because of the jungles, their millitary and people are like a mix of oriental,and the ppl like the incas, aztecs, and mayans.

what makes philippines different is their people and culture

to begin with they were tribal people, they sorta lived like the incas, aztecs, and mayans, but they originaned from malaysia... and are asians

first contacts- were the portuguese and ferdinand magellan, he landed on the philippines and never made it back, das cuz the ppl killed him by throwing a spear and pierced through him

second contact of outside world- the spaniards, the spaniards came to the philippines around the time before the battle of the Spanish of Armada, they conquered the tribal ppl with their superior weapons (guns) and wit supperior knowledge for they were educated, they ruled the philippines for 300 years, durin that time america was tryin to get a foothold in the philippines, they sent ships to luzon, the northern island of philippines where manila their capital is located, they educated the people and soon nationalistic feelings arose, they eventually overthrew the spaniards and kicked them out of the country

WWII, Vietnamn, and Korean War- In WWII the philippines was attacked the same day as pearl harbor, when they were attacked they walked the Bataan death march were thousands of filipinos and americans died on the way... the philippines was a very strategic location and the u.s built bases on it, the filipinos fought along side the americans in order to win WWII, in vietnamn and korea it was still used as a base and some filipino soldiers were sent to with the americans to help fight

after wards- the filipinos started to have those nationalistic feelings again, and decided to revolt againts the americans, they used guerrilla tactics as in WWII and againts the spaniards to fight the americans, eventually u.s. gave them their freedom...

Now... even now philippines is still filled with millitary action... they face the muslim extremist in the south, they face also a communist party that wants to over throw the government....

Game Ideas
UU- the Pinoy- a tribal warrior that had a yoyo like weapon that had a knife at the end (ancient age)
elite pinoy- classical age
mashede warrior- a warrior wielding 2 mashedes, (medievil age)
libirator- a soldier wearing a barong and carrying a rifle (gun powder)
barong soldier- an upgrade of the libirator (enlightenment)
guerrilla- upgrade of barong soldier (modern)
elite guerrilla- upgrade of guerrilla (information)

bonus... durin history the philippines refused to give up, againts the spaniards, the japanese, and the americans, they can have a bonus that takes an opponent longer time to capture a city and a bonus like russia's winter ...

semi unique tech for philippines and vietnamn- this region is known for their jungles, so this unique tech is called living jungle, since there are new ways off attacking like flanking... when an opponent enters a vietnamn or philippine player, the vietnamese or filipino soldiers are easier to hide with generals and in every way they attack its like flanking the enemy if the enemy is in their border

I will try to post more stuff on the other 6 civilizations that i think should be on it
here is my webpage...
http://www.asianavenue.com/Members/...ER=FoBolousFlip

Canuck is offline Canuck
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Apr 2003
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I think a Hebrew civ would be a great choice because it represents a people with a long history who have greatly influenced events throughout that history, from the ancient Hebrews to the modern Israelis.

I like the idea of a U.S. civ, though it would be very hard to implement. What would their ancient age unique units be?

theponyguy1 is offline theponyguy1
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I think instead of adding a bumch more civs, they should work on more architectural diversity and making sure that each nation has at least one Unique Unit for each age.

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May 2002
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i think they should have a atlantis civ...oh wait wrong game

Sirotnikov is offline Sirotnikov
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Feb 2000
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I feel a new discussionabout hebrew / israeli civ coming on

btw, do they have arabs?
I'm not updated on this.

If they don't - they should.

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Not Arab specifically...

Turks are the closest thing they have in RoN...
I would like to see a Persian civ (not arab again) but would be good for the ancient ages
I suppose a Saracen civ like in AOK would be good.

tniem is offline tniem
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I will not touch it with a ten foot pole.

However, I will say that the U.S. should not be in Rise of Nations. This is a game about starting out as an ancient tribe. The U.S. has nothing like that - no logical procession to today from ancient times. I would vote no on adding the U.S.

Canuck is offline Canuck
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Apr 2003
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I feel a new discussionabout hebrew / israeli civ coming on


btw, do they have arabs?
I'm not updated on this.

If they don't - they should.



Shalom

No, no Arab civs. The Egyptians or the Turks are as close as it gets.

HuangShang is offline HuangShang
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Turkey (as a nation) seem to socialize far more w/ Europe then the middle east, its amazing there not in the EU

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ya well the turks have always wanted to be a part of europe rather then the middle east...but the historical fact of the matter is that they are a muslim country, and I think old europe still has a bit of a prejudice against them for that. But i think its a mistake to do that, here is a democratic secular muslim state, something that the western powers want to see in the rest of the middle east. If they arent even at least given a bone for playing the game the way we want, it just isnt fair, nor advantages for us, and send a wrong message to them and other Muslim countries who are moderates.

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Well there should be some arab civ, along with a hebrew one.

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ya well the turks have always wanted to be a part of europe rather then the middle east...but the historical fact of the matter is that they are a muslim country, and I think old europe still has a bit of a prejudice against them for that. But i think its a mistake to do that, here is a democratic secular muslim state, something that the western powers want to see in the rest of the middle east. If they arent even at least given a bone for playing the game the way we want, it just isnt fair, nor advantages for us, and send a wrong message to them and other Muslim countries who are moderates.


I don't think the time is quite right to label Turkey a democratic secular state. If it wasn't for the army, the fragile Turkish infrastructure would probably collapse. The current government is an Islamic one, and the people continue to show a strong anti-western sentiment. Certainly the country's strong relationship with America may be one of the reasons the major countries in the EU appear to be resentful of the Turks.

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well...ya that too
but you can say that the current U.S. or European governments a Christian government as well, especially the current U.S. administration's penchant to invoke God, and promote faith based initiative in social programs. The important distinction is that they are in power while it is back by military to create stability. There is at least nominal nod to the separation of church and state, and they do have elections which arent just confirming the same dictator into power, and arent rules by Mullahs or Ayatolahs.

as a Canadian, i am sure you know WE like to have our own little digs at the States as well. i wouldnt catagorize the Turkish state by public sentiments (especially in this climate of war).

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Yeah, anti-americanism seems to be a fast growing trend these days. Even so, the Turkish democracy is on thin ice imo. I know torture is still a widely accepted practice, and various international organizations have slammed the Turks for additional human rights abuses.

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Still, you make a good point in saying that we should be thankful that Turkey isn't in the vice grip of fundamental Islam.

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I will not touch it with a ten foot pole.

However, I will say that the U.S. should not be in Rise of Nations. This is a game about starting out as an ancient tribe. The U.S. has nothing like that - no logical procession to today from ancient times. I would vote no on adding the U.S.


In that spirit there should be a levantine semites civ - that would cover Hebrews, Phoenicians, etc. AOE/ROR added Carthaginians when AOE already had Phoenicians!!!!!

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