22-03-2003 08:45									#1
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Plan calls for most SS parts to be completed on the 2nd turn, with lots of freight rushed on the first turn. We will completely ignore celebrations and food considerations in a couple cities.

1 structural and 1 component will be completed this turn, 2 structurals, 13 components and 3 modules will be completed next turn and will be ready for launch. Proposed cost is approximately 5300 gold and 33 freight. We currently have 15 freights, with 24 proposed freight to be rushed, for a total of 39 freight - this allows for 6 to be used in Trade. Each additional freight used for Trade could cost up to 440 gold in rushing, if less than 6 are used in Trade, the reduction in cost is 200 gold. Reason for this is that any freights over 33 used for SS parts will be used to reduce cost in modules that are being rushed anyway. If less than 33 freights are used, it means that cities producing components won't be able to build them using their own production any more, requiring rushing of production that would have normally come from the city. ie rushing 110 shields instead of rushing 0-30 shields.

With a little more micromanagement, we could reduce the number of freight by 5 at approximately 168-200 gold per freight, by buying structurals in WhereItsAt town, shady trees, Avila, St Praski and Valencia and then use 1 freight instead of 2. This would allow 11 freights to be used for Trade, although we'd want to be careful not to have freight stuck on the wrong continents and unable to be used, as we have an incomplete ferry system.

Turn 1
1 Structurals are to be completed in Salamanca this turn and started in Saragossa and Malaga next turn.
1 Component should be completed in Granada this turn.
We also plan to complete 24 freight the first turn.

Turn 2:
Proposed is modules in
Seville (100/320)-> 880 gold
Amazon Island (50/320)-> 1080 gold with freight
Chii (300/320)-> 80 gold with 5 freight
total: 2040 gold

We will also have 13 SSC to complete in:
Pamplona (1 freight)
Capitol (1 freight)
Leon (2 freight + 120 gold)
Cordoba (2 freight + 120 gold)
WhereItsAt town (2 freight)
shady trees (2 freight)
Avila (2 freight)
Cadiz (2 freight + 120 gold)
Salamanca (2 freight + 120 gold)
St Praski (2 freight)
Valencia (2 freight)
Granada (2 freight + 120 gold)
Whale Island (2 freight + 240 gold)
total 840 gold

Total cost of plan:
1222 gold (turn 1)
2040 gold (turn 2 modules)
840 gold (turn 2 components)
-----------------------------
5102 gold.

Total gold available:
3134 gold (current balance)
1700 gold (expected taxes)
2400 gold (expected deliveries)
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7234 gold

we also can raise approximately 2500 gold from selling 7 universities (1120 gold) and 17 libraries (1360 gold) in 1 turn so we have in the vicinity of 10000 gold available to use if problems arise or if we need to raise funds for defense.


For the logistics of moving freight and transports around, we have several build sites

Continent #2 (Greater Naples)
proposed builds: 6 freight
Total for SS : 6 freight

Continent #20 (Amazon Island)
proposed builds: 1 freight
Total for SS : 1 freight

Continent #33 (Malaga)
currently : 1 freight
Total for SS : 1 freight

Continent #29 (Vigo)
proposed builds: 1 freight
proposed deliv : -1 freight => (whale island via transport in Malaga on turn 2)

Continent #30 (Whale Island)
proposed builds: 1 freight
proposed arriv : 1 freight (from Vigo via Malaga transport on turn 2)
Total for SS : 2 freight

Continent #31 (CAPITOL)
currently : 3 Freight
at sea (izumo) : 1 freight (to be dropped off outside Seville this turn)
at sea (pampl) : 2 freight (to be dropped off outside Pamplona this turn)
proposed builds: 2 freight
proposed trade : -1 freight (Wine to continent #25 for delivery on turn 2 to Leptis Parva)
proposed arriv : 4 freight (4 from continent #25, Cadiz to Pamplona transport on turn 2)
Total for SS : 11 freight

Continent #25 (Avila)
proposed builds: 4 freight
proposed arriv : 6 freight (5 from continent #19, West Porton to Easton Port, 1 wine from cont#31 on turn 2)
proposed trade : -2 freight (Wine, Obladi to Leptis Parva, Gems to Avila)
proposed deliv : -4 freight (to continent #31, Cadiz to Pamplona transport on turn 2)
Total for SS : 4 freight

Continent #19 (Leon)
currently : 8 freight
proposed builds: 9 freight
proposed trade : -4 freight (Coal and Silk [Freeport to Chinese], Uranium [shady trees and WIAtown]
proposed deliv : -5 freight (to continent #25, West Porton to Easton Port, on turn 2, including Gems from Cavebear City)
Total for SS : 8 freight


For a guide on how to deliver the freights towards the Space ship parts.
Turn 1:
Granada:
1) change to Manhatten Project (MP)
2) deliver salt
3) change to Structural (SSS)
4) buy SSS (120 gold)
5) change to MP
6) deliver food freight
7) change to Component (SSC)
city has 30 production and needs 30 shields to complete

Salamanca:
1) change to MP
2) deliver food
3) change to SSS

Malaga:
1) change to MP
2) deliver Salt
3) change to SSS
city has 15+ production and 30 shields to complete, will build in 2 turns


Turn 2:
Amazon Island:
1) change to MP
2) deliver freight
3) change to Module (SSM)
4) buy SSM (1080 gold)

Chii:
1) change to MP
2) deliver 6 freight
3) change to SSM
4) buy SSM (80 gold)

Whale Island:
1) change to MP
2) deliver freight
3) change to SSS
4) buy SSS (120 gold)
5) change to MP
6) deliver freight
7) change to SSC
8) buy SSC (120 gold)

cities listed as 2 Freight -> SSC (these cities have been building SSS parts for 1 turn)
1) change to MP
2) deliver 2 freight
3) change to SSC

cities listed as 2 Freight => SSC (120 gold)
See Granada, turn 1

Hope this makes it clear enough and good luck

Edit: forgot to include one of the arriving freights to cont #25 to be used in trade.

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Last edited by SCG on 23-03-2003 at 08:37

	22-03-2003 08:51									#2
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If it will go in 2 turns, that's all I need to know!

	22-03-2003 09:08									#3
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear If it will go in 2 turns, that's all I need to know!

hehe - it will go in 2 turns, as long as we don't get transports out of place or waste too much gold buying units straight up

I wanted to be as specific as i could in several cases as while there is quite a bit of room built in, we still could get stuck with all the freight on one continent with Leon and Freeport, and all the cities building SS parts on another continent, which could delay launch even if we held a good-bye to Science fire sale

	23-03-2003 07:51									#4
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quote: we also can raise approximately 2500 gold from selling 7 universities (1120 gold) and 17 libraries (1360 gold) in 1 turn so we have in the vicinity of 10000 gold available to use if problems arise or if we need to raise funds for defense.

Depends if we want to salvage Cremona, that will be the highest expense of rushing a fighter with the available shields.

Sell these anyway, and use if your plan falls short as a result of unanticipated problems.

Otherwise:

Let's get this game finished!

	23-03-2003 14:58									#5
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Awesome work. I look forward to a victory.

	23-03-2003 16:40									#6
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And will the save be posted THEN?

	23-03-2003 19:38									#7
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt And will the save be posted THEN?

If its like last game, saves all throughout history will be posted.

	23-03-2003 20:49									#8
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I say go for it...ASAP.

	24-03-2003 02:06									#9
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that looks...wow...euhm perfect?

This should really get us launched to AC.

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	24-03-2003 03:16									#10
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Man, I'm glad I am not playing any multiplayer games with SCG.

Not because I would lose though, but rather because his turns would take so damn long...

	24-03-2003 03:40									#11
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quote: Originally posted by CannonFodder Man, I'm glad I am not playing any multiplayer games with SCG. Not because I would lose though, but rather because his turns would take so damn long...

*chuckles* its also one of the reasons i have no plans to venture into the MP arena. (At some point i may try PBEM).

I've never liked real time games unless I can pause or really slow them down a lot.

	24-03-2003 14:16									#12
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All I care about is getting to AC, then I can watch you guys try and fight it out on the all land, little water, no pattern, it will drive you insane map.....

	25-03-2003 18:40									#13
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Awesome planning, SCG. Very nicely done.

	25-03-2003 21:59									#14
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Excellent planning. I'll go for the win Thursday night, since my girlfriend is visiting for a few days. I hate to disappoint you guys, but she takes precedence over civ.

	25-03-2003 23:20									#15
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay but she takes precedence over civ.

	26-03-2003 02:55									#16
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay I hate to disappoint you guys, but she takes precedence over civ.

You haven't got her trained very well

	26-03-2003 05:45									#17
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No, she's got him well trained..

Glad to hear ixnay.
We'll wrap up the second Civ2DG.
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MWiA:

You'll get to kibitz at your hearts content.