22-03-2003 22:22									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Currently, both the Turks and the Kurds deny any entrance of Turkish forces.

the turks rigged up a kurd on some sticks and are making videos.

"no, none of those dirty turks in here! nuh unh!"

	22-03-2003 22:39									#32
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Apparently the Germans are now threatening to pull their AWACS crew members from Turkey if the Turks go into Iraq.

This could turn into a challenge for NATO but I reckon the most likely effect of a Turkish incursion will be to kill any chance of Turkish entry into the EU (because no-one will be prepared to deal with the Turks on joint EU military initiatives like Macedonia).

	22-03-2003 22:45									#33
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV Apparently the Germans are now threatening to pull their AWACS crew members from Turkey if the Turks go into Iraq. This could turn into a challenge for NATO but I reckon the most likely effect of a Turkish incursion will be to kill any chance of Turkish entry into the EU (because no-one will be prepared to deal with the Turks on joint EU military initiatives like Macedonia).

The news here is speculating that the Turks want to prevent Kurdish control of Kirkut and the oil that goes with it. Their purpose may be to tie the Kurds down until US forces are in position to "liberate" it.

	22-03-2003 23:00									#34
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Turkish General: "Soldiers? What soldiers? These are, ahem, humanitarian aid workers..."

Skeptic: "Shouldn't they have food and blankets instead of rifles?"

Turkish General: "For the specific type of humanitarian aid we have in mind they are appropriately equipped."

Skeptic: "...hmmm..."

	22-03-2003 23:21									#35
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then we will be in deep doo-doo

This would be a public relations disaster. I'm hoping for the best.

	22-03-2003 23:35									#36
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I wish the Greeks would of wiped those warmongering Turks off the face of the planet when they had the chance.

If Turkey sets off WWIII Greece will have Constantinople and Ionia back soon enough.

	23-03-2003 02:29									#37
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV Apparently the Germans are now threatening to pull their AWACS crew members from Turkey if the Turks go into Iraq. This could turn into a challenge for NATO but I reckon the most likely effect of a Turkish incursion will be to kill any chance of Turkish entry into the EU (because no-one will be prepared to deal with the Turks on joint EU military initiatives like Macedonia).

After a meeting of the government it has been decided that the AWACs will be withdrawn if the Turkey becomes actively involved into the war (i.e. AFAIK turkish troops fighting Iraqis and the like).

So I think as long as their troops keep out of any battle there will be german AWACs patrolling over Turkey.

	23-03-2003 03:26									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Odin I wish the Greeks would of wiped those warmongering Turks off the face of the planet when they had the chance.

the french and english troops stopped us from doing just that in the 1920's

(not wipe them out completely, to take constantinople)


they threatened to put their whole troops in the region to stop us if we went in.

We didnt want to cross them, I guess.

	23-03-2003 03:31									#39
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they also blockaded our ports in another time when we could actually break the ottoman empire in pieces.

they didnt want a big Greece the bastards


they also saved us in the beggining of the revolution when we needed it, with the russians(we started the 2nd offensive too soon).

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	23-03-2003 04:27									#40
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It would be interesting if instead of billions in aid for support the US, the Turks get US and UK sanctions until they pull their troops out of Iraq.

	23-03-2003 04:53									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Ned It would be interesting if instead of billions in aid for support the US, the Turks get US and UK sanctions until they pull their troops out of Iraq.

I thought it was the US position that sanctions don't work?

	23-03-2003 19:25									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Ned It would be interesting if instead of billions in aid for support the US, the Turks get US and UK sanctions until they pull their troops out of Iraq.

What basis do they have? After all, the Turks are carrying out the Bush Doctrine.

	23-03-2003 22:48									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Willem I thought it was the US position that sanctions don't work?

Bush was just making up sh!t.

	24-03-2003 07:41									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Odin Bush was just making up sh!t.

Embargoes don't work. They just hurt the people, not the government. The overall effect of an embargo is to make the target country become poorer overall, thus, the people become more radical.