22-03-2003 16:40									#1
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The save is moving very very quickly. It is agains with GoW since at least 3 hours ago. Please post your orders, if any.

	22-03-2003 17:56									#2
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1075 bc public works


Dijon continues mining Saragossa 4
(turn 2 of 6)

Arneleos continues irrigating Barcelona 9
(turn 3 of 4)

Ruby_Maser move e,ne,e
(Leon 7) Unit will road 1050.

Astrologix move e,ne,ne
-- then 1050 n,e,se
(Leon 1) Unit will road 1025.

Visigoth move e,ne,ne,
--then 1050 n,e,e
--then 1025 e,s,se
(Leon 3) Unit will road 1000

Leon roadway grand opening dates:
Western road (Leon 7, Santiago 14) ---- 975 bc
Northern road (Leon 1, Saragossa 16) -- 950 bc
Eastern road (Leon 3) available --------- 925 bc

Manuel de Leon

	23-03-2003 00:45									#3
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Military orders :

Upgrade 3 Madrid warriors to Swordmen !

Magyar warrior : ne, ne, n
Barcelona warrior : sw
Madrid Expedition : se
Bulgar warriors : ne
Feocalvos : w
Guardia observatoria : se
First Rider : w, sw
Slave Watchers : follow the slaves
Coastal Guard A : sw (on the iron tile)

Don Pelayo Astronicus


Barcelona : no changes. Set new WF : #5, #8, #9

Don Pedro de la Alcantarilla

Last edited by astrologix on 23-03-2003 at 01:03

	23-03-2003 00:50									#4
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quote: Originally posted by roadcage Astrologix move e,ne,ne -- then 1050 n,e,se (Leon 1) Unit will road 1025.

Señor de Leon,

If the Great Togas bless my request, I would have Astrologix coming back to Madrid in order to irrigate te #18 tile to prepare the Temp City settlement.

	23-03-2003 01:08									#5
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quote: Señor de Leon, If the Great Togas bless my request, I would have Astrologix coming back to Madrid in order to irrigate te #18 tile to prepare the Temp City settlement.

Señor Astrologix,

Madrid can MAKE a worker faster than one can return from the western frontier.

But in any event all workers toil for the benefit of Espania.

quote: Leon will serve Spain as a settler or worker pump, and should help boost our growth. Getting it up and running quickly is my foremost concern. --Togas

Manuel de Leon

	23-03-2003 01:21									#6
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Señor de Leon,

We have a decision to take : is Leon still an immediate goal or should it be changed to only build a straight road between Vigo and Pamplona ?

And, I agree that Madrid could build a worker faster, but this city is intended to build a settler after the Horseman is completed...

Yes, we are facing some complex choices to be made...

	23-03-2003 02:24									#7
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Pamplona: nothing new...

	23-03-2003 03:07									#8
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I have decided to make the City of Leon a priority, and with Roadcage's efficient crew, it will shortly be a worker/settler factory, and will assist Pamplona in it's task of settling our great wilderness.

Roadcage's worker orders are approved.

--Togas

	23-03-2003 05:13									#9
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Borders of Neu Dem city, Marlowa has expanded prior to Saragossa's border expanding.

Picahulu seen in valley NE of Madrid.

Military:
magyar ne, ne, n
rider w, sw
guobs se
bcn sw
fero w
bulger ne
madrid se

3 warriors upgraded => swordsmen!

workers:
visigoth e, ne, ne
astro e, ne, ne
ruby e, ne, e

cities:
WF of barcelona to 5, 8, 9
WF of Madrid to 3, 5, 7, 14, 18, 20

We are now stronger than ANYONE with our military!

GoW built a city on the isle called Taiwan. ND is building cities eastward, but not in the valley N of Madrid. Both of our neighbors are in total REX mode. We, strangely enough, have the strongest military.

We are in 100% tax mode, doing no research.

Images posted HERE

--Togas

	23-03-2003 05:20									#10
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They'd better call that city Taipei and that island Taiwan

Aidun Cian the younger

	23-03-2003 05:29									#11
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Before any Upgrades:
Avarage compaired to ND and Lego, Strong to everybody else

After first Upgrade: No Change

After 2nd Upgrade: No Change

After 3rd Upgrade: Strong vs everyone.

Can someone figure what this signifies?

E_T

	23-03-2003 06:36									#12
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It does not imly that the others have less than 3 swordsmen, I think there must be some calculation that gives these indications. I have but no idea which.

We should also be not too optimistic. This indication could also mean the we are strong due to our large defensive army combined with these new swordsmen

Aidun Cian the older

	23-03-2003 07:22									#13
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I think, but don't quote me, that it's an accumulation of the combined offensive and defensive values of the units. So a warrior being 1/1 is a value of 2 and a spearman being 1/2 is a value 3.

Using this as a guild, our totals before and after the upgrade are:

Spearmen - 14 ---> value of 42
Horsemen - 1 ---> value of 3
Subtotal - 45

Before Upgrade: Warriors - 9 ---> value of 18

After Upgrade:
Warriors - 6 ---> value of 12
Swordsmen - 3 ---> value of 15
Subtotal - 27 (increase of 9)

Total before upgrade - 63
Total after Upgrade - 72

Still average with a total of 69 (before the 3rd warrior was upgraded).


We still have 6 more warriors that need to be upgraded, which will add an additional 18 points to our total, bringing it up to 90. we need to get those warriors back to be upgraded as soon as possible, and replace them with either swordsmen or Horsemen, depending on where they are patroling.

E_T

	23-03-2003 08:27									#14
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Fine, we’re stronger than everyone else now. Send out the settlers, or we won’t be able to maintain our strength!

	23-03-2003 17:15									#15
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I wouldn't give it for sure without checking, but I think that E_T is right with the mil.advisor values