26-03-2003 02:37									#1
	Initial Contact: Gamecatcher Chat 3-25-03 Suffering from ads?

Here is today's chat with Gamecatcher.

Initially they were kind of stand off-ish, but started to warm up. There still seems to be a slight amount of distrust, but they our current relations with them do not seem too bad at all.

Can a moderator lock this thread too please?

quote: Session Start: Tue Mar 25 11:26:58 2003 Session Ident: #gamecatcher [11:26] * Now talking in #gamecatcher [11:26] * Topic is 'Gamecatcher :mischief: Chatroom' [11:26] * Set by Lucky on Mon Mar 17 15:10:46 [11:27] Trip: there we go [11:27] Lucky: but he isnīt online right now [11:27] Lucky: hi there [11:27] Trip: hey WB [11:27] WhiteBandit: Good morning! Evening... whatever the case may be [11:27] Lucky: evening [11:28] Eklektikos: ditto :mischief: [11:28] WhiteBandit: You're located in Germany right? [11:28] Lucky: I am, yes [11:28] Trip: ah [11:28] Trip: deutch [11:28] WhiteBandit: Alright California here [11:28] Trip: s^ [11:29] WhiteBandit: My girlfriend was fairly fluent in German and the only thing I ever really learned how to say was "Schmutzig" (spelling? But "dirty") [11:29] Trip: lots of German players in this game [11:29] Trip: conspire: [11:29] Trip: das stimmt WB :P [11:29] WhiteBandit: i know not what that means trip :P [11:29] Lucky: hehe [11:30] Lucky: well [11:30] Lucky: as said [11:30] Trip: das ist schade [11:30] Lucky: our site ambassador for you guys isnīt around right now [11:30] Trip: er, okay, I'm done :P [11:30] Lucky: so the question is how long are you available today? [11:30] WhiteBandit: Ah, ok. This will work for now though [11:30] WhiteBandit: I'll probably be available throughout most of the day [11:31] Trip: our FAM is coming, I believe [11:31] WhiteBandit: How has the game been so far for you guys? [11:32] Lucky: well [11:32] Lucky: ... [11:32] Trip: ? [11:32] Trip: [11:32] WhiteBandit: Haha [11:32] * Togas_at_work (tom_ogas@Star7169.co.tulare.ca.us) has joined #gamecatcher [11:32] WhiteBandit: I'm not trying to get you to divulge any top secret information, don't worry [11:32] Trip: heya Togas [11:33] * Togas_at_work is now known as Togas_at_lunch [11:33] WhiteBandit: Hey Togas [11:33] Lucky: hi [11:33] Togas_at_lunch: Greetings. Just in time [11:33] Eklektikos: hola [11:33] Togas_at_lunch: I'm at my office, at work right now, but taking an early lunch. [11:33] Lucky: if you are all available only now, we can start, but Iīd rather wait a few hours, if thatīs possible [11:34] WhiteBandit: I suppose that is fine. What is your ambassador's name? [11:34] WhiteBandit: Or contact info [11:34] WhiteBandit: I can go ahead and send something off to them if you wouldn't mind [11:34] Trip: need your lawyer present for questioning? [11:35] Lucky: History Buff [11:36] Lucky: Not sure which info he wants to reveal though [11:36] WhiteBandit: okay, I created a private account at Gamecatcher.net though, so I can PM him [11:36] Togas_at_lunch: Please do, WB. [11:37] Lucky: he is Canadian, so heīll probably be around in a little while [11:37] Trip: when does he usually arrive during the day? [11:37] WhiteBandit: Okay [11:37] WhiteBandit: i'll go PM him right now [11:38] Lucky: different times [11:42] WhiteBandit: Alright, I just sent off a PM to him [11:43] WhiteBandit: Lucky - want me to forward the PM to you as well? [11:43] Lucky: naw [11:44] Lucky: if it hasnīt any important info [11:44] WhiteBandit: Okay [11:44] WhiteBandit: In the future then, want me to direct all communications between us to him? [11:47] Lucky: yes [11:48] Lucky: he will be your contact to schedule any meetings, relay any requests and such [11:49] WhiteBandit: ok, great [11:49] WhiteBandit: We look forward to dealing with you guys though [11:49] * anarchy (GCmember@Star5048.hottie.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #Gamecatcher [11:50] anarchy: :hmm: [11:50] Lucky: we do, too [11:50] Lucky: hi nrk [11:50] anarchy: hey :hmm: [11:50] anarchy: POly? [11:50] Trip: heya anarchy [11:50] Trip: eek... that name took far too many tries to spell [11:51] WhiteBandit: Hi anarchy [11:51] WhiteBandit: Lucky - Would you guys be willing to discuss any tentative trade proposals at the moment? [11:53] Lucky: well, we are open for any kind of trade [11:55] WhiteBandit: Alright, in the letter to History Guy, I acknowledged that we have pottery, masonry and soon, bronze working to offer. [11:55] Lucky: hmm [11:55] Lucky: we could offer you BW, too [11:55] Togas_at_lunch: History Buff [11:55] WhiteBandit: wait... History Guy is on our side huh? [11:55] Trip: History Guy is one of ours WB [11:55] WhiteBandit: haha [11:55] WhiteBandit: I apologize [11:56] WhiteBandit: I meant the letter I sent to History Buff of course [11:56] anarchy: :hmm: [11:56] WhiteBandit: Lucky, may I ask what you guys are currently researching? [11:57] anarchy: Don't trust them [11:57] Trip: LoL [11:57] WhiteBandit: Perhaps we can take a divergent research path in the future, so that it will facilitate trading between us? [11:58] anarchy: You mean you go for all the military techand we go for all the peaceful tech? :// [11:58] Lucky: that is possible [12:00] Lucky: where do you intend to go to, tech wise? [12:00] Lucky: and anarchy, psst [12:00] anarchy: :hmm: [12:00] WhiteBandit: Hah, well what path do you want to take? [12:01] WhiteBandit: Lucky - at the moment we're not sure where we are going to go, as it is up in the air. We're hoping contact between our people will allow us to work out some sort of plan that can dictate what we will research [12:02] Lucky: we would like that [12:02] WhiteBandit: We're pretty much done with BW and will be starting a new tech soon, so we wouldn't really accept a trade for BW in anycase [12:02] Lucky: we can offer you something else, too [12:02] Lucky: according to our intelligence, you donīt possess one of our starting techs [12:03] WhiteBandit: Well what do you have that you could trade to us? [12:03] WhiteBandit: And what is it that you are looking for if I may ask? [12:04] Lucky: we are com and rel, so we have Alpha and CB [12:04] Lucky: and you do not have CB [12:04] Lucky: so that would be something we could offer [12:04] Lucky: if presented with an appropriate counter-offer [12:05] WhiteBandit: Hah, are you looking for anything specific? [12:05] anarchy: :mischief: [12:05] Lucky: actually, no [12:06] WhiteBandit: Have you guys researched pottery yet? [12:07] Lucky: well [12:07] Lucky: I guess you will see that once you get your turn [12:07] Lucky: :mischief: [12:07] WhiteBandit: Hehe, I suppose that is true [12:09] Lucky: so, since youīll find out anyway, I can tell you that you have nothing of interest for us :ack: [12:10] WhiteBandit: Alright, there isn't really anything we can do about that then. [12:10] Lucky: unless you would offer a city as our anarchic friend here suggests [12:10] anarchy: :mischief: [12:11] Lucky: j/k [12:11] anarchy: Whats your capital called? :mischief: [12:11] WhiteBandit: Hah, sure. Just chalk it up as an I.O.U. :P [12:11] WhiteBandit: But in return, we'd require every tech you currently have. [12:11] WhiteBandit: :P [12:11] WhiteBandit: Hehe [12:12] WhiteBandit: anarchy - That's easy enough to find out, just go to the top 5 cities screen [12:13] anarchy: Yeah well I dont have PtW or a save game [12:14] Lucky: anyway, since we are already talking [12:14] Lucky: what we would like is something like a No-Aggression treaty [12:15] Lucky: a bilateral respect for each others borders [12:16] WhiteBandit: Okay, what do you have in mind [12:16] WhiteBandit: ? [12:18] Lucky: Nothing special, a no trespassing agreement [12:18] Lucky: and if possible something like the NAP you have with Elucidia [12:19] WhiteBandit: Ah okay, I'm sure we could come to an agreement on something like that. [12:20] WhiteBandit: How much do you know about that NAP? [12:20] Lucky: well [12:20] Lucky: only that its somehow limited [12:21] WhiteBandit: Okay, what sort of criteria would you be willing to apply to the NAP between us? [12:22] Lucky: well [12:22] Lucky: since Elucidia is located between our two nation, I guess we wonīt have much contact anyway [12:22] WhiteBandit: Well I'd prefer it if we kept in communication at least [12:22] Lucky: oh we will [12:23] Lucky: I meant military contact [12:23] Lucky: [12:23] WhiteBandit: Ah yes. [12:23] Lucky: weīd like an agreement, that units have to get permission before moving close to our border [12:24] Lucky: or your border in that case [12:24] WhiteBandit: That's understandable [12:24] Lucky: this way, no one will feel threatened [12:24] * anarchy (GCmember@Star5048.hottie.dialup.pol.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout) [12:25] * anarchy (GCmember@Star4970.narley.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #Gamecatcher - [12:25] Lucky is ~GC@Star111101.dip0.t-ipconnect.de * irc.starchat.net [12:25] Lucky on @#gamecatcher [12:25] Lucky using Enigma.NL.EU.StarChat.Net Ad astra per aspera [12:25] Lucky End of /WHOIS list. - [12:28] WhiteBandit: would something like this be workable: Agreeing not to move next to your borders without first getting permission? [12:28] Lucky: yes, thatīs exactly what we would want [12:28] WhiteBandit: Great [12:28] WhiteBandit: Nor would either of us block each other's units or movement? [12:28] Lucky: so your warrior delegation would have to move back in your turn if we agree to this [12:28] Lucky: sure [12:29] WhiteBandit: Well in respecting your borders, we could also move directly west too? [12:30] Lucky: emm [12:30] anarchy: :s [12:30] Lucky: you will see that you probably cannot [12:30] Lucky: or are you allowed to cross through Elucidian territory freely? [12:31] Togas_at_lunch: That's our dilema. We promised CDG we wouldn't go back north thru their territory again as they're making a city right there [12:32] Togas_at_lunch: So we have to find a new way home. [12:32] Lucky: we know [12:32] Lucky: but if you move west, you will still be in their territory [12:32] Togas_at_lunch: we can't go north. [12:32] Lucky: and Elucidia assured us that you could move back freely [12:32] Lucky: why not? [12:32] Togas_at_lunch: ask them to send you a copy of our Non-Agg treaty. [12:33] Lucky: well, wouldnīt you still be in their territory if moving west? [12:33] Togas_at_lunch: we'll have to find out, I suppose [12:34] Lucky: following our information you can move freely back onto the hill and from there back home [12:34] Lucky: also you can be assured that moving west will never get you home again [12:35] Togas_at_lunch: We're going to have to meet and discuss this with CDG, I imagine. [12:35] Lucky: I guess they will show up every moment now [12:36] Lucky: Iīll invite them here once they get online [12:36] Togas_at_lunch: [12:37] Lucky: btw [12:37] Togas_at_lunch: Anyhow, We'll save this for later. Let's not let this spoil the Non-Agg you were working on. [12:38] Lucky: you can and should also contact Cornmaster, our Chief Ambassador, when trying to establish communication [12:38] Lucky: sure [12:40] Lucky: and we can also write down an agreement for mutual scientific cooperation [12:40] WhiteBandit: That sounds like an excellent idea [12:41] Lucky: only that it is not that possible in this moment [12:41] WhiteBandit: How so? [12:41] Lucky: well [12:41] Lucky: it seems that neither side wants to reveal the direction research is taking right now [12:41] Lucky: :mischief: [12:42] WhiteBandit: It's not that we don't want to reveal it, it's that we don't have a plan. :-P [12:42] WhiteBandit: We're willing to let you take whatever path you want. [12:42] anarchy: When do we get Fusion lucky? :// [12:42] Lucky: psst anarchy [12:42] Lucky: :mischief: [12:42] anarchy: :mischief: [12:42] * Guest2 (GC@Star108114.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #Gamecatcher [12:43] Guest2: oye [12:43] WhiteBandit: At the moment, our next research will probably be between IW, WC, Wheel, and Writing. It really just depends on what we can work out with trading between other nations. [12:43] Trip: who dat :P [12:43] Guest2: Hmm, who are these fellas? :s [12:43] Lucky: the Poly delegation [12:43] Guest2: oh [12:43] Lucky: and no worries, thatīs Ohwell, a team member [12:43] Guest2: :mischief: [12:43] Guest2: no, I'm a spy [12:43] Trip: ahhhh [12:43] Guest2: :mwaha: [12:43] anarchy: [12:44] Trip: [12:44] Lucky: nevermind him [12:45] Trip: [12:45] * anarchy (GCmember@Star4970.narley.dialup.pol.co.uk) has left #Gamecatcher [12:45] * anarchy (GCmember@Star4970.narley.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #Gamecatcher [12:45] Guest2: :s [12:45] anarchy: Ohwell did you play that game yet? [12:46] WhiteBandit: Lucky - regarding the NAP, how long would you like it to last for? [12:46] Lucky: we have no plans to break it [12:46] Lucky: :mischief: [12:46] Lucky: so, it could be infinite if you want [12:47] Guest2: sorta [12:47] WhiteBandit: Haha [12:47] WhiteBandit: True! [12:47] Guest2: I can't find Emi [12:48] Lucky: so, you can choose a timespan as you like [12:48] Lucky: but Iīd say a minimum of 20 turns should be it [12:49] Guest2: hmm [12:49] WhiteBandit: okay [12:49] WhiteBandit: What if we throw out 30 [12:49] WhiteBandit: [12:49] Lucky: very well [12:50] WhiteBandit: We can renegotiate it after 25 turns though? [12:50] Lucky: yes, we can agree to that [12:50] WhiteBandit: So a 30 turn NAP, renegotiable after 25 turns. [12:50] Lucky: yes [12:50] WhiteBandit: Wonderful! I believe we can send it to mongoose at the UN who can verify it for us [12:51] Lucky: btw, it would be nice if you could draft our treaty documents [12:51] WhiteBandit: Definitely [12:51] Lucky: we are all pretty busy right now [12:51] WhiteBandit: I'll write that up shortly and send it to you for approval [12:51] WhiteBandit: Want me to send it to you, or History Buff? [12:51] Lucky: send it to HB and CornMaster [12:51] WhiteBandit: Okay [12:52] WhiteBandit: Want to work out the second treaty (tech deal) right now, or do you want to wait on that? [12:53] Lucky: I am just checking on that [12:53] WhiteBandit: ok, take all the time you need [12:54] Lucky: how do you value technologies? [12:54] Lucky: do you use the Civ3 tech costs?

	26-03-2003 02:42									#2
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quote: [12:54] WhiteBandit: Via the editor? [12:54] Lucky: yes [12:55] Lucky: or personal preference [12:55] Lucky: ? [12:55] WhiteBandit: Yeah, we use the value from the editor and also based on the value of what we're interested in [12:55] WhiteBandit: But the value from the editor does help in "equaling" things out [12:55] WhiteBandit: Do you guys use that? [12:56] Lucky: sometimes [12:56] Trip: the longer it takes the research the more valuable [12:57] WhiteBandit: How do you guys place values on those tech costs? [12:57] Lucky: personal experience and preference I guess [12:59] Lucky: well, from the ones listed above, I guess the path to Horses would suit you best [12:59] Lucky: Wheel and WC together are worth 7 points [13:01] * Trip is now known as Trip[class] [13:01] Trip[class]: I'll be back in an hour or so [13:01] WhiteBandit: Let me look at my tech chart here [13:01] Trip[class]: 'Til then [13:01] WhiteBandit: Trip - calculus? [13:01] Lucky: bye [13:01] Trip[class]: yep :P [13:01] WhiteBandit: NO! [13:01] WhiteBandit: run! [13:01] WhiteBandit: haha [13:01] Trip[class]: hehe [13:01] Lucky: :crazyeyes: [13:01] WhiteBandit: :P take it easy trip [13:01] Trip[class]: see ya guys [13:02] Lucky: have fun [13:02] Lucky: [13:02] * Togas_at_lunch is now known as Togas_at_work [13:02] Togas_at_work: I'll be semi-idle. Just type in really big bold letters and hopefully I'll see it. [13:02] Togas_at_work: [13:03] WhiteBandit: togas - do you have highlight set up on IRC? [13:03] WhiteBandit: it comes in handy [13:03] WhiteBandit: all someone has to do is type "togas" and you irc will beep [13:03] Lucky: I wouldnīt call that handy [13:03] Lucky: Iīd say annoying [13:04] Lucky: [13:04] WhiteBandit: haha [13:04] anarchy: YOu guys dont have any ideas where CFC is in relation to us in the game? [13:04] WhiteBandit: Location wise? [13:04] anarchy: yeah [13:05] WhiteBandit: Lucky - So we would be trading you WC, Wheel, HB then if we went that route right? [13:05] WhiteBandit: What would you guys be willing to go toward? [13:05] WhiteBandit: anarchy - yeah we know where they are [13:06] anarchy: Really? :mischief: [13:06] anarchy: [13:06] WhiteBandit: Hehe, what is wrong with that? [13:06] Togas_at_work: No highlight set. I'd rather work in peace [13:06] Eklektikos: sensible [13:06] WhiteBandit: Togas - understandable [13:06] Lucky: did you spy them or is our island even bigger than expected [13:07] Lucky: :mischief: [13:07] WhiteBandit: Nope, no spying [13:08] Lucky: hmm, then it means we are even more than 3 civs on this island :ack: [13:08] Lucky: getting a little crowded Iīd say [13:08] WhiteBandit: We actually thought it was an island and we came across CDG. We thought that it ended south of them, but we came on a hill and saw your borders. [13:08] WhiteBandit: So now we're not sure what to think about how far it goes [13:09] anarchy: We COULD be on a continent? [13:09] Guest2: bbvgbbbvv vvvbebbbb [13:09] Guest2: arg, sorry [13:09] WhiteBandit: All of us could be on some type of pennisula connected to a far larger land [13:09] WhiteBandit: anarchy - yes, it's quite possible [13:09] Lucky: well [13:09] anarchy: See, i told you it wasnt an island [13:10] Lucky: sure anarchy [13:10] Lucky: [13:10] Lucky: anyway [13:10] Guest2: lol [13:10] Lucky: we could think about a tech trade [13:10] Guest2: TNT changed his avatar to the Unabomber [13:10] Guest2: [13:10] * Guest (GC@Star9085.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #Gamecatcher [13:10] * Guest is now known as Ixplodestuff8 [13:10] Guest2: oye [13:10] Ixplodestuff8: hola [13:11] Guest2: and speak of the devil [13:11] WhiteBandit: Lucky - Understandable We won't officially agree to anything here just yet, as I'm sure we both still need to talk to our individual team members [13:11] Guest2: the Unabomber himself [13:11] Ixplodestuff8: [13:11] Lucky: well [13:11] Ixplodestuff8: I think that avatar fits my name [13:12] Lucky: I think we could agree to trading a high value tech for WC and Wheel [13:12] WhiteBandit: Ok, what would you be willing to research towards it? [13:12] Guest2: yeah [13:12] Lucky: Writing [13:12] Guest2: you should become the second unabomber :mischiof: [13:12] Guest2: :mischief: [13:13] Lucky: which is an 8 point tech [13:13] Lucky: WC and Wheel are 7 points [13:14] WhiteBandit: yeah [13:14] WhiteBandit: that would be agreeable to you guys then? [13:14] Lucky: we are also strongly interested in any further contact you might have, especially with CFC [13:14] WhiteBandit: Hah, we only have contact with CFC [13:14] Lucky: well [13:14] anarchy: CFC :yeah: [13:15] anarchy: Excellent [13:15] Lucky: it would be a really tasty deal if we could somehow work such a thing into it [13:15] Togas_at_work: ... we have contact with CDG, not CFC [13:15] WhiteBandit: err [13:15] WhiteBandit: haha [13:15] WhiteBandit: god [13:15] WhiteBandit: there are too many acronymns to remember [13:15] anarchy: muppet? :mischief: [13:15] Togas_at_work: just thought I'd point that out. I'll go back to idling [13:15] WhiteBandit: CFC, CDG, GCA [13:16] WhiteBandit: Thank you Togas [13:16] Lucky: just call us Gamecatcher [13:16] WhiteBandit: I just caught my mistake as you pointed it out too, hehe [13:16] Guest2: or GC [13:16] anarchy: Just call us Sir [13:16] Lucky: :roll: [13:16] anarchy: jk [13:16] Lucky: donīt mind the peasants [13:17] Guest2: [13:17] Guest2: Hmm [13:17] WhiteBandit: Lucky - Would it be possible to write

	26-03-2003 02:43									#3
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quote: up a draft involving WC, Wheel for Writing then? Would this be acceptable? [13:17] Guest2: I'm no peasant [13:17] Guest2: I'm a noble :smug: [13:17] WhiteBandit: After that deal is complete, we could discuss further tech trades [13:17] Guest2: The Earl of Off Topic :mischief: [13:18] Eklektikos: the Sultan of Spam, more like [13:18] Lucky: well, a draft, but as said, with the small cost difference it still feels kind of unfinished [13:18] Guest2: [13:18] anarchy: [13:18] Guest2: didn't notice you, you old buzzard [13:18] Lucky: :mischief: [13:18] Guest2: now leave before I notice your existance again [13:18] WhiteBandit: hah, of course [13:18] * Guest2 is now known as Guest [13:18] WhiteBandit: i'm not sure what to do to make it more acceptable [13:18] WhiteBandit: hmm [13:19] WhiteBandit: perhaps we each tack on another tech [13:19] WhiteBandit: try to "even the score" so to speak [13:19] Lucky: you could include it in section II, something like that we agree to renew the bartering about this issue when the time is right [13:19] WhiteBandit: okay [13:20] WhiteBandit: of course we can talk about the perceived value too! :P [13:20] WhiteBandit: how bad do you want warrior code? [13:20] Lucky: umm [13:20] Lucky: actually [13:20] Lucky: not at all [13:20] Lucky: [13:20] WhiteBandit: haha doh [13:20] Guest: lol [13:20] Lucky: wheel is of a little more interest [13:20] WhiteBandit: well how are you guys going to carry out your plans to take over the world? [13:21] Lucky: it is kind of hard to push all those carriages with nothing to roll them [13:21] WhiteBandit: ok, change my argument then from warrior code to wheel :P we'll do it this way [13:21] WhiteBandit: how bad do you want the wheel? [13:21] WhiteBandit: (there, i like that) [13:22] Lucky: we value Writing much higher, as we are an intelligent people [13:22] anarchy: Whats a wheel? :smug: [13:22] WhiteBandit: Lucky - Totally understandable! that is why we haven't bothered with the wheel, we just use Trip to carry around our stuff [13:22] anarchy: [13:22] Eklektikos: [13:22] Lucky: I guess we are drifting now [13:22] Togas_at_work: [13:22] Guest: :ack: [13:22] Lucky: let us finish any official talks [13:22] WhiteBandit: (I would have said Togas, but he's probably fire me :P ) [13:22] WhiteBandit: err he'd [13:23] * Togas_at_work nods slowly. [13:23] Lucky: donīt nod, WORK [13:23] WhiteBandit: In that case, I am his wheel :P hah. [13:23] * Togas_at_work goes back to work.... [13:23] Lucky: suuuuuuuuuuure [13:24] Lucky: ok, one last thing in official function [13:24] WhiteBandit: i'll be helping him move out of his house and he's like "Here Dave, I'll get this flower pot, can you move my refrigerator?" [13:24] WhiteBandit: Lucky - sure thing, you name it [13:24] anarchy: We have to bleach your hair [13:24] WhiteBandit: Too late! [13:24] anarchy: Its a Gamecatcher custom [13:24] Guest: [13:24] Lucky: you create the draft of our treaty and send it to us, weīll then modify and add the fine print , and then it can be ratified [13:24] anarchy: Ohwell, get the industrail strngth bleach [13:24] Guest: No, that's only for the good ones [13:24] Guest: [13:24] Guest: [13:25] WhiteBandit: Lucky - sounds fine, we'll go ahead and work on that and send it to you ASAP [13:25] Guest: We need the cigar-choppers [13:25] Lucky: cool [13:25] Guest: The ones where human thumbs can fit in [13:25] WhiteBandit: So it will be two separate treaties then [13:25] Lucky: 2? [13:25] WhiteBandit: well the NAP treaty and the science treaty? [13:26] WhiteBandit: or we can bundle it up [13:26] anarchy: NAP and Tech treaty [13:26] WhiteBandit: one giant treaty covering everything [13:26] WhiteBandit: :P [13:26] Lucky: bundle is ok, since the tech treaty is not definite in any point [13:26] anarchy: Lucky concentrate [13:26] WhiteBandit: okay, i just wanted to pass the NAP as soon as possible and think we can agree on that no problem [13:26] WhiteBandit: the tech one will take awhile to haggle over i think [13:27] WhiteBandit: that is why i wanted to split it up [13:27] Lucky: no problem [13:27] Lucky: the actual trade will be a while away in any case [13:27] WhiteBandit: yeah exactly [13:29] WhiteBandit: and lastly, send everything to History Buff? [13:30] Lucky: and CornMaster [13:30] WhiteBandit: ok [13:30] Lucky: ok, the only thing left is the talk with Elucidia [13:31] WhiteBandit: Hmm, it would be nice if we could create this huge massive tech agreement between all 3 of our nations [13:31] WhiteBandit: we'll leave that for future consideration though [13:31] Lucky: sure [13:31] WhiteBandit: then we'd have fusion for anarchy by... next week [13:33] WhiteBandit: okay, I am going to take off and work on those treaties, if you guys need to reach me, you can PM me at your site, email, or ICQ [13:33] Lucky: hehe [13:33] Lucky: yes [13:33] * Lucky is now known as Lucky_busy [13:33] WhiteBandit: alright, nice meeting you guys [13:33] WhiteBandit: take it easy Session Close: Tue Mar 25 13:33:48 2003