26-03-2003 03:03									#1
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I am e-mailing you a jpeg map of the full continent of Bob, as received from Legoland. It is interesting. Please note vondrack's comments. Let's respect them.

(statusperfect - do you want me to send you one as well. Please advise.)


From vondrack:

Hereby, I am attaching the log and the map we promised (it was
up-to-date for Turn 72). One thing: even though we got the map with no
strings attached (like not being allowed to disclose it to anyone), it
was in fact ND's mistake that we got it... we were not really supposed
to get it (yes! unbelievable! :-))). The deal was "approved" ex-post
by both sides (they got some gold for it) and no hard feelings left,
but we would STRONGLY prefer NOBODY ever finds out we provided you
with this map...

I believe you will best know what to do to save us from repercussions
that would inevitably follow any information leaks regarding the true
source of this map.

Best regards,
Radek aka vondrack
The President of Legoland

	26-03-2003 03:10									#2
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well, they do have a lot of land

	26-03-2003 03:36									#3
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The other thing that is interesting - if this is a recent map - we are not that far behind in city numbers or growth. Their cities are more spread out, and the increased land area is contributing to the differences in score.

Too bad we did build the city on Bob. That is going to cost us.

After seeing this map - anybody wanna stay and fight?

	26-03-2003 04:27									#4
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it does tell us one thing

we are the only nation that are so pressed for land (we know that GS has much more than us (but not, it looks, as much as the nations of Bob)

I expected sometihng like this

Jon Miller

	26-03-2003 04:31									#5
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which one is ND and which is GoW?

anyone remember the colors?

also, GoW deffinitely lied to us last Sat (about how pressed they were)

Jon Miller

	26-03-2003 04:36									#6
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umm, GoW could get 1 galley to GS in like 14 turns

Jon Miller

	26-03-2003 04:36									#7
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I don't think they can help at all

I think this is just a setup to get us out of Bob

but there is so much space there

Jon Miller

	26-03-2003 04:37									#8
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and the land is so nice

Jon Miller

	26-03-2003 04:38									#9
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hopefully we haven't turned the city over yet

Jon Miller

	26-03-2003 05:12									#10
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No - but in about a couple of hours I will. Unless there is a compelling reason not to. Or a rush of opposition against the proposed plan.

I agree the land is good. But we are not welcome. And won't be. We now have GoW on side - and NeuD. The longer term strategy - which for now we concur with - is to taget RP after GS. NeuD will stay mum on the GS plans and go along with the public ruse.

I still like our chances against GS better than a one against two fight on the continent.

GS has committed to one galley in 10 turns. Or three in 16. I suspect we will request the latter.

	26-03-2003 06:32									#11
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Jon, See the minimap I sent around last week for placements of GoW and ND that I derived from old FA information. GoW is on top left of Bob, ND in the middle, RP on the bottom.

Beta, I think we could hold up against both GoW and ND for a while. It would be a defensive war, not one that gets us more land.

I would go with the three galleys in 16 turns, if that means those galleys will be near Estonia and ready to land then, not just leaving GoW on the NW of Bob.

	26-03-2003 06:33									#12
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Waiting more turns will let us prepare better (and maybe create a few galleys for those ideas I had) but it also could mean that GS has time to research Feudalism and we could end up facing pikemen.

	26-03-2003 06:44									#13
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WE do not want them getting Pikemen, that will make attack much harder

	26-03-2003 07:00									#14
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quote: Originally posted by HarryH Beta, I think we could hold up against both GoW and ND for a while. It would be a defensive war, not one that gets us more land. I would go with the three galleys in 16 turns, if that means those galleys will be near Estonia and ready to land then, not just leaving GoW on the NW of Bob.

I agree on the first point Harry. but to what end.

And I agree on the second as well - it was 16 turns at Wittlich strait and ready to go. That was what GF said.

	26-03-2003 07:23									#15
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Beta, See my note in the chat night thread about getting 1 galley now and more later.