27-03-2003 10:03									#1
	Crashing to Desktop? Suffering from ads?

Has anyone had this happen? I'm having a devil of a time with it in my current game. The diplomacy screen appears to be the root of the problem. I'll be checking stats, opening a dialog with another race, etc. and the game just disappears. Everything else is running fine. I thought I had seen something about this on the main site but I can't find it now and was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem or may know a solution.

My specs are:
450 MHz PIII
256 MB RAM
NVIDIA 128MB Video
Windows 2000
DirectX 8.1 (shipped with MOO3)
SB compatible card

	27-03-2003 21:11									#2
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Usually with me there was a parse error in one of the files. Check and see if you have a debug file in your /galciv directory and edit it with notepad and look for "parse error in" and edit that file with notepad. Look at the very end for a misprint like END SBMODULESBMOD when it should say END SBMODULE.

That is at least what it has been for me in the past.

they have a new Bug reports list on Galciv Forum as well......

	27-03-2003 22:51									#3
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Hmmm.... I had that happen once, but it was just as one of my cats decided to demand attention by plopping down on the keyboard, so I wrote it off.

That said, I don't know if the release still has this (I think it does), but right up to the gamma release, GalCiv wrote a text-based debug log. you might want to trim that down and send it to StarDock.

	27-03-2003 23:33									#4
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I posted to the bug fix list in the GalCiv forum but haven't heard anything. I was just about to post a new thread over there but thought I'd check here first to see if anyone responded. Glad I did. I'll wait until I get home and find the debug.err file and include it in my post.

It's just odd that it's only happening in this one game. It must be because I was actually doing really well.

	28-03-2003 08:31									#5
	Got spare money?

I have had one CtD. I was trying to access my diplomacy screen as well.

Athlon 1.8 meg
nvidia TNT2 vid card
gobs of RAM and disk space

M

	28-03-2003 20:01									#6
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I'm playing through one now and almost completed it. No crashes. I just make sure to save it every time I go into the diplomacy screen and every few turns. I also checked the debug.err file and there's nothing in it that looks like the cause of the problem. I don't think it's even writing anything up.

	28-03-2003 21:16									#7
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

I had one CTD after four hours of play--I can't remember if it was trying to access the diplomacy screen or not. I couldn't recreate it, as when I loaded the autosave, the game was all fubarred...the main map display was totally red, the charts on the side were empty, etc.

I'm on a P-4, 1.7 gHz
512 Mb Ram

	29-03-2003 00:05									#8
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you can go onto stardock central and in the 'free stuff' section there is a tool called smart exception. If you have the extra memory, it will install itself into memory when you start up. This debugger will tell them to the code line where it is screwing up. Brad talks about it on the 'Bug Reports' list.

	29-03-2003 08:38									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Just had it again...about 3 hours worth of play, then a CTD. Happened when I hit the turn button...

	29-03-2003 14:14									#10
	Got spare money?

I just experience my first CTD.
It was in the diplomacy screen, my espionage was at the 2nd level where i can see the abilities of the civs.
The Drengin empire was selected, and when i selected the next civ (can't remember which, but the icon was the 2nd from above) it crashed.
Let's see if i can recreate it.

	29-03-2003 14:21									#11
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Ok, i was looking at the "Stats" page, and it seems it only crashes when i try to select the Altarians.

I can work around it by going to another page first and then select the Altarians, after that it doesn't crash anymore.

	29-03-2003 19:34									#12
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

New CtD:

IF I try to access the party bonuses in the new game screen, it crashes the game.

Repeated six times. Same crash each time.

M

	29-03-2003 23:29									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

There's a link over at galciv.com's forum that Brad started. It fixes some crash bugs but I think it's mostly related to the metaverse. I gave up on the game that was crashing on me and have had better luck with new games. I also save before I get into any diplomacy screen. Maybe it only crashes on you when you're beating the crap out of the AI and it knows you haven't saved in a while. Tricky AI...

	29-03-2003 23:49									#14
	Increase the size of your Attachments

I noticed after I installed the patch that many of my movies went more smoothly, most notably the intro with the opening doors.

	30-03-2003 20:24									#15
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I just had the game crash and disappear after accessing the domestic policy button. It happened about 3 times.

I load a game, click the dom policy button, the game vanishes.

This happened 3 times until i decided to not try accessing dom policy anymore.

I only had one planet left to conquer, so i just finished the game and left dom policy alone.

	30-03-2003 22:31									#16
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

This isn't about crashing to the desktop, but I will throw it out anyway.

When I launch the game and the menu comes up, if i choose anything other than "play game" the game freezes.

Anyone else see this?

	08-04-2003 20:36									#17
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quote: When I launch the game and the menu comes up, if i choose anything other than "play game" the game freezes.

It doesn't freeze, it's just awfully slow. It will launch a browser or the game in a very long time. Better to launch the game from the game exe directly.

I have had a few crashes too, but found no reproducible pattern yet.

	08-04-2003 22:53									#18
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Since downloading the Stardock updates, I've not had a single crash, even during several-hour-long sessions.

	11-04-2003 17:32									#19
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In my last and only game after I've downloaded the newest version (2.04X) I had crashes every other turn. I'll try a new game and then revert to 2.036 which runs without any problems if the crashes persist.

	12-04-2003 11:47									#20
	Inflate your Upload Space

For anyone that's interested: I reinstalled, started a new game avoiding the confirmed crash reason (see below) and haven't had any problems since. Seems that after encountering the crash once, the game or at least the savegame somehow went into generally-unstable-and-likely-to-crash mode.

The one thing to avoid: Don't use the slider to adjust the money in the diplomacy screen IF AND ONLY IF the civilization in question has less than 100 BC left. If it has more, it's safe to use the slider.