28-03-2003 21:14									#1
	Demo Game #3 - Restrictions Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Several restrictions on our play have been suggested. So let's vote on them.

A is about Wonders, B is about Caravans, C is about ICS, and D is about Barbs.

	28-03-2003 21:28									#2
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Voted no ICS, but how many city's can we build so we're not ICS'ing?

	29-03-2003 01:03									#3
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I don't think we should set a specific limit on built cities, but we should expect to have about as many as this past game. I think as long as we are developing the cities we build normally (as opposed to the specific minimalist ICS type), we won't have to worry we are ICSing. We'll naturally want to build a number of cities quickly at the start, though, and that's fine.

	29-03-2003 01:42									#4
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We could set ourselves a building limit of 10-15 city's so we have to conquer the rest.

This would give us a bit more of a military challenge.

	29-03-2003 06:02									#5
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We could consider that. Does anyone else want me to poll on a specific number of cities we can build?

	29-03-2003 06:07									#6
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yes, a poll on the subject seems like a good idea

	29-03-2003 07:04									#7
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can I suggest a restriction? No ending the game unless we get the maximum possible score.

	29-03-2003 07:14									#8
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maxing out the score is extremely tedious

	29-03-2003 07:20									#9
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I don't really care about score.

	29-03-2003 16:06									#10
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It will take forever to play.

	30-03-2003 02:10									#11
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yeah, no maxing score, lets just seek and destroy !

anyone who has spent time maxing a game, knows the agony

	30-03-2003 02:37									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Patashu can I suggest a restriction? No ending the game unless we get the maximum possible score.

shall i let Ming and rah respond to that?

quote: Originally posted by rah 29.02.00 09:02 Extreme Boredom sets in between 16,000 and 18,000. No glory is worth that brain numbing experience. RAH Been there, done that, never going again.

quote: Originally posted by Ming on 29.02.00 09:39 Bored myself to tears getting past Rah... Launched my space ship way early just to stop the torture... 20,000+ If I had waited, I could have gotten to 30,000 But as Rah says... it just isn't worth it

see here for the thread

	30-03-2003 07:06									#13
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Thats the kind of thing you put yourself through once.....

But as civ has a max number of city's and future techs, you can just calculate yourself to the max score.
(I've seen a seve file from a Russian guy who done that, looked very boring

Lets just limit our citybuilding so we actualy have to think twice about our military options

	30-03-2003 20:18									#14
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The Caravan and Barb questions are closer than I would have guessed from the prior discussions!

	30-03-2003 20:49									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Patashu can I suggest a restriction? No ending the game unless we get the maximum possible score.

euhm you really want to kill some ppl? believe me a highscore game is very specific, most of the time there would be only one or 2 ministers who have a job, and the endgame would consist of a zillion carans moving back and forth(1 to 2 hours a turn...not what I would call a lot of fun for all the players)

Go wonders, Save the camel,let them live in peace, and I love big cities far from one another ICS

Shade

	31-03-2003 02:52									#16
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About 18 hours left in this poll. Speak your mind or your opinions will not be included...

	31-03-2003 02:59									#17
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I don't care, expect the maw srocing thing,

	31-03-2003 04:46									#18
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If there is a demand for a high score game, I'll post my latest save, still in the 1700's with over 200 million people, and you can take a run for the last 250 years.

As for a DG?




I vote for no camels, lots of barbs and lots of cities.

	31-03-2003 20:58									#19
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Yeesh, I just made it.

No caravans but yes to Wonders. I have done Trade Supremo before and Caravans seemed to be so unbalancing - I never use them like that in my games.
No to ICS (it's the principle, dammit!) and roving Barbs.

	31-03-2003 21:07									#20
	Increase Your PM Length

Well, if we have no WoWs, ICS will simply not be possible.

I like barbs, since they pose far more threat to the AI than to a human.

No WoWs can be fun, but if we're going there, our limited number of cities (due to unhappiness) will need camels.

Actually, I care little for the details. It's just great to know that we can take the gloves off and kick some AI tail.


( * -Jrabbit looking forward to War4ever taking a lead role in CwDG#3 * )

	01-04-2003 04:04									#21
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Never got a chance to vote, but that's ok, looks like a challenging game. No wonders, no caravans, no ICS, raging hordes.

On a mostly land map too IIRC.

	05-04-2003 23:34									#22
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quote: Originally posted by atawa Voted no ICS, but how many city's can we build so we're not ICS'ing?

I think it's not the number of cities, but the speed at which the cities are built, and the distance between the cities that tells wether you ICS or not...