29-03-2003 23:51									#1
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quote: The World Health Organisation expert who first identified the mystery pneumonia that has claimed dozens of lives has himself died of the disease, the UN agency has announced. Dr Carlo Urbani, a 46-year-old Italian and an expert on communicable diseases, had identified Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) in an American businessman admitted to hospital in Vietnam in February. ...

Bad enough, but it gets worse...

quote: However in China, where the outbreak has killed at least 30 people, the communist regime is enforcing a media blackout, apparently concerned that news of the disease will cause panic. Chinese authorities have come under widespread fire for their secretive handling of SARS. They have continued to stall on granting permission for a group of WHO doctors to visit the south of the country, where China's first cases of the virus appeared.

Let's deal with a problem by preventing people from knowing about it or talking about it... la de da de da...

	29-03-2003 23:57									#2
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Let's deal with a problem by preventing people from knowing about it or talking about it... la de da de da...

Sometimes I think that China is on the path to Superpower status, but other times........

	29-03-2003 23:59									#3
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12 Monkeys.

	30-03-2003 00:00									#4
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bu huu... now that sounds scary some weird times ahead if this disease spreads as it could.

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Well, we would have to wait for more cases in places like Canada or Europe to give it "12 monkey" status.

This does make it cloear our battle with illness is far from won, if ever.

	30-03-2003 00:20									#6
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12 monkeys. that was a great movie.


But indeed, as disturbing as it seems, fortunately, it is has not spread to far and wide. *knocks on wood*

	30-03-2003 00:33									#7
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Fortunately, this illness is far to be as contagious as the 12 Monkeys one. However, it's still very dangerous.

	30-03-2003 23:05									#8
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Hasn't someone in Swansea died of it?

	30-03-2003 23:23									#9
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on the "plus" side, natural population control in china.... although i'm sure the families of the deceased would not agree

	30-03-2003 23:28									#10
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china already has population control

the millions of babies aborted

and the ratio of men to women

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	30-03-2003 23:32									#11
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key word,

natural population control

	30-03-2003 23:48									#12
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Here's a pretty comprehensive article, with focus on the US (it being Atlanta, and all)...

http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/ne...30sarsmain.html

China decides to help track the disease, but then puts it on hold for several days while they install an electronic tracking system.

Luckily, the CDC likely will have an antibody detector to isolate real cases of the disease.

	30-03-2003 23:53									#13
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quote: natural population control

That's the most piss-poor argument I heard for quite some time. so this is better than controlled child-birth, because it's natural? Would you prefer the epidemic to work as population control, or the governmental program? Remember, the governmental program is not natural! It doesn't create sickness and suffering!

"Help me, I am dying"
"Don't worry, Honey, It's only natural."

	31-03-2003 00:08									#14
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Yeesh. From the article, it sounds like Metro Toronto isn't a happy place to be right now. Two hospitals closed, three under restricted movement, all volunteer, patient transfer, and visitor programmes shut down.

Oh, and thousands of people under quarantine.

*scratches off Hong Kong, Guangzhou, and Chinatown Toronto from visitation list*

	31-03-2003 00:10									#15
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It kills about 4% of its victims. While high, it's not in the 1918 Flu/Bubonic Plague range. Like the 1918 flu, however, it seems to be targetting adults. Well, ain't **** I can do about it so

	31-03-2003 00:17									#16
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Edit: The 1918 Spanish Flu had a mortality rate of 2.5%.

Last edited by DanS on 31-03-2003 at 00:26

	31-03-2003 00:36									#18
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Edit: The 1918 Spanish Flu had a mortality rate of 2.5%.

It killed more Americans than all of America's wars put together up to that point. Are you sure you have the percentage right?

Historical note, my great-great-uncle died of the Spanish Flu.

	31-03-2003 00:48									#19
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Google says that 28% of Americans contracted the Spanish Flu. 635,000 died.

	31-03-2003 00:50									#20
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How many of us were there at the time?

	31-03-2003 00:52									#21
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100 million or so. So that squares.

	31-03-2003 00:54									#22
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You're right.

	31-03-2003 02:48									#23
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So this thing is more deadly than the Spanish flu. loooooovely.

	31-03-2003 02:50									#24
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Damn, this SUCKS

	31-03-2003 04:16									#25
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Only you get it.

Or a friend of yours gets it.

	31-03-2003 08:40									#26
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Well, we would have to wait for more cases in places like Canada or Europe to give it "12 monkey" status. This does make it cloear our battle with illness is far from won, if ever.

I'm pretty sure we've got a handle on it now.

Ontario Public Health has gone schizoid and has quarantined a couple of thousand people for 10 days...

	31-03-2003 10:21									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel That's the most piss-poor argument I heard for quite some time. so this is better than controlled child-birth, because it's natural? Would you prefer the epidemic to work as population control, or the governmental program? Remember, the governmental program is not natural! It doesn't create sickness and suffering! "Help me, I am dying" "Don't worry, Honey, It's only natural."

I get the feeling he was joking

	31-03-2003 10:51									#28
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you can never know around here.

	31-03-2003 12:34									#29
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He is Doctor Evil, after all.

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quote: Originally posted by Caesar the Great on the "plus" side, natural population control in china.... although i'm sure the families of the deceased would not agree

It's an idiotic comment. Anyone who says this is a fool. What's next? Is he going to claim the Iraq War is a great way to reduce the size of the US military?

People are panicking in Hong Kong. All work stopped in my office after a rumour started that someone (or her mother, or her mother-in-law) had got the virus.

I've been telling people not to worry, but no success so far.

Any advice about how to calm people about this virus?