01-04-2003 03:26									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow quote: Originally posted by Agathon And IMHO the greatest aircraft ever constructed: the Supermarine Spitfire. Bah! The P-51 Mustang is the greatest propeller-driven aircraft built!

The P-51 was a mediocre fighter relegated to ground attack.

Until they put the Spitfire's Merlin engine in it

	01-04-2003 04:08									#92
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quote: Originally posted by GePap And why can't I find any decent pics of the Il-2 Stormavik?

Don´t know if this fits into your description of "decent" , but here´s one http://www.paulnann.com/images/pn_w0899.jpg

	01-04-2003 04:23									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Everyone say it's ugly, but that's how true war planes need to look. Not like sleek and shining F-22s, but like real flying monsters ready to blow things up at every moment.

If an F-22 can survive a direct SAM hit like many A-10s have done, I'll be more impressed.

I think the A-10 is beautiful in how menacing and brutal it looks.

	01-04-2003 04:43									#94
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2 more cool x planes

the Fairey Delta II and the Douglas X-3

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	01-04-2003 04:44									#95
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Sorry, here's the Delta II

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quote: Originally posted by Asher If an F-22 can survive a direct SAM hit like many A-10s have done, I'll be more impressed.

Given its combat role, to make the F-22 SAM resistant would increase its weight so as to make it a useless fighter.

	01-04-2003 05:13									#97
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Ekranoplane is awesome, no one agree??? I'm of hard conviction now that the Canadian Navy should be abandoned and replaced with just one of these. We'll situate it for crossing of Lake Ontario!

There's more Injuns to trade beads to down there, ya see...

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The warthog gets a 10 for originality. What a cool looking plance... I used to draw those dropping napalm (?) on Battleships every other week as a kid...

They probably thought it wouldn't get out of prototype phase at first glance

	01-04-2003 05:40									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon 2 more cool x planes the Fairey Delta II and the Douglas X-3

I have honestly never seen this plane in my life before, which is the first time Ive been able to say that on this thread thus far.

I should get my friend to post on here. He is a WWII Fighter fanatic/guru... im sure he has some good pics, but i know he has lots of good info.

Secondly, i dont care what anyone generally thinks about war, no one can deny that War planes are just awesome pinnacles of human achievement, despite their purpose, only topped by by spacecraft (and a few structires and nautical craft) in that respect.

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quote: Originally posted by Kramerman I have honestly never seen this plane in my life before, which is the first time Ive been able to say that on this thread thus far.

Which one? The X-3 or the FD II?

I wish I could find a pic of the FD II done up as the Concorde test plane. That looked really cool.

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quote: Originally posted by Zylka Ekranoplane is awesome, no one agree???

I do, actually. I was fascinated by flarecraft for a couple years...actually got a couple people together and started building a two-seat one, but ran out of money and ambition before it was finished. I've never understood why they've never gained popularity.

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Which one? The X-3 or the FD II? I wish I could find a pic of the FD II done up as the Concorde test plane. That looked really cool.

I know Ive never seen the Douglas X-3 before, but the FD II looks quite unfamiliar as well.

	01-04-2003 11:46									#103
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"Glamorous Glennis" Bell X-1, the first plane to breach the sound barrier.



Arado Ar 234 Blitz, the first (?) turbo-jet bomber.



Humu, finnish version of Buffalo Brewster



De Havilland Vampire



A manned V-1, Reichenberg I... The pilot was supposed to get out...



Gotha Go-229 Horten IX, flying wing



A Ba 349A Natter, rocket powered interceptor.

Got a litle carried away...

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quote: Got a litle carried away...

are you refering to yourself, or the designers of those air planes? heh.. kinda bizarre, some of 'em are...

	01-04-2003 11:52									#105
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Aircraft without propellers, fancy that! What will those crazy germans think up next...

	01-04-2003 14:06									#106
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I quess me and them got a little carried away...

	01-04-2003 15:36									#107
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Enjoy Zylka

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	01-04-2003 15:53									#110
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since we all know what happened, I'd rather not talk about THAT one a lot, Serb.

	01-04-2003 16:01									#111
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What's wrong with "Lun"? IIRC, we still have four on Caspian Sea.

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quote: Originally posted by Kramerman I know Ive never seen the Douglas X-3 before, but the FD II looks quite unfamiliar as well.

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The FD II held the jet air speed record for a time. My friend's grandfather (RIP) was an air show enthusiast and saw it a few times. It ended up being modified and being used as a test plane for the Concorde project. They gave it a Concorde style wing and a new nose. It looked really cool. Unfortunately I can't find a picture of it.

	02-04-2003 01:41									#113
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Serb: you sure you mean 4 on the Caspian Sea, and not 4 UNDER the Caspian Sea?

	02-04-2003 01:42									#114
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well all great aircraft i saw too here...but my favorites are the:
A10
F/A 18
F-117

and one i havent see anyone say...the B-1....

now for commercial jets:
airbus!

	02-04-2003 02:10									#115
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yf23, f16 are the two coolest planes evar!

	02-04-2003 03:09									#116
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De Havilland Mosquito: Concieved as a bomber, this amazingly versatile aircraft was excellent in all fields of air combat. The main body is constructed of plywood, which saved it from being abandoned during the early years of the war.

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Hawker Typhoon: This was intended as a replacement for the Hawker Hurricane, but in it's early days it proved unreliable. It eventually found a niche as a ground attack aircraft, deploying rockets against enemy tank forces.

	02-04-2003 04:18									#118
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The MiG 1.42, which will not be built due to its cost:

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	02-04-2003 04:21									#119
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The Chengdu J-10, which is a remarkable plane for probably somewhere around US$20 million:

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	02-04-2003 04:24									#120
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The J-10 and the Sukhoi Su-35 (below) are certainly the most cost effective warplanes available at ~$20 million and $35 million respectively:

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