31-03-2003 01:19									#31
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what about shogun?

	31-03-2003 03:11									#32
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The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly is a great epic.

	31-03-2003 04:25									#33
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Epics are typically films about historical events which had a big impact. Ben Hur was fictional I believe and certainly not a major historical event while Spartacus was historical. Gladiator lacked the historical context to qualify IMO, but the thread allows for everyone's definition of the word. Gone with the Wind is certainly an epic film...

	31-03-2003 04:31									#34
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Lots of good films here folks..

.. I have to say that Kwai movie (Don't remember the english title). You want to know a secret? Well it's not a secret actually, but when I saw that film when I was a little kid, it really had a big impact on me.. it first made me realize I want to be a soldier. It's kind of ironic, since it's about POWs..

.. but it was because of the spirit of the men. That special thing what you can establish only in those kind of situations.. And of course the catchy whistling .

	31-03-2003 04:31									#35
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Papillon
Ben Hur
Alcatraz

pretty much anything with a prison or a gladiator

or Jedi?

	31-03-2003 04:35									#36
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Braveheart

	31-03-2003 04:36									#37
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quote: I also liked the movie about JeannedŽArc by Luc Besson (sp?).

The Messenger? Was it?

I remember one that did a good job of showing of the seige warfare of the times. Superb!

	31-03-2003 04:42									#38
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omg Papillon is huge! I also have to book, it is just so good, I think I need to read it again, thanks for reminding!

	31-03-2003 04:43									#39
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I have rented Papillon 3 times now... time to buy it.

Same with Glory

	31-03-2003 04:46									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Japher The Messenger? Was it? I remember one that did a good job of showing of the seige warfare of the times. Superb!

Yeah, youŽre right, I looked again

Full title "The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc"

	31-03-2003 04:51									#41
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Japher, Yep. I'm a proud owner of it already. It's a keeper.

	31-03-2003 04:52									#42
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Newer movies are hard for me to look at as Epics, but if I had to pick a recent movie to be called one I would say that The Four Feathers was really good.

	31-03-2003 04:53									#43
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It's weird to see those two so young (McQueen and Hoffman)

	31-03-2003 04:57									#44
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I'd consider "Lawrence of Arabia", "Cleopatra", and "Empire of the Sun".

	31-03-2003 04:59									#45
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Yep.. if you haven't read the book, I recommend it with warm hearts.. it has many things in it that wasn't covered in the movie, naturally. It's even more amazing in my opinion. It's funny, usually when I see a good movie and then read the book, I picture it little differently. But with Papillon, McQueens face was all over in my mind when I was reading it. Powerfull acting!

	31-03-2003 05:01									#46
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Gods and Generals

No, wait, that was agonizngly long, historically inaccurate, skipped the Battle of Antietam entirely, and was a Neo-confederate propaganda piece.

It wasn't epic.

	31-03-2003 09:46									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed I wouldn't call The Godfather an epic either. Lacks... vastness.

but Part II has it...

	31-03-2003 09:48									#48
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Good lord... Gods and Generals was awful... I don't think I've ever been so psyched to see a movie and so disappointed when I saw it. NOT EVEN EPISODE II DISAPPOINTED ME THAT MUCH!

	31-03-2003 12:59									#49
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Uhmmm. I really need a definition for EPIC. Is EPIC=classic, sucessful?

If.... Treasure of Sierra Madre, Apocalypse Now, Blade Runner.

I also liked Arsenic and old Lace, but thats hardly an epic...

	31-03-2003 17:16									#50
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You should see the latest film of Jiang Yimou, "Hero"

That's epic for you!

	31-03-2003 17:38									#51
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"Empire of the Sun" truly impressed me when I was young.
"Ran" is beautiful, but lacks something to be considered an epic IMHO.

	31-03-2003 17:40									#52
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unless a definition of epic is given.. I'd say dirty dozen?

	31-03-2003 18:40									#53
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Others not mentioned.

The longest day.
Patton.
The 10 commandments.

	31-03-2003 19:19									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Epics are typically films about historical events which had a big impact. Ben Hur was fictional I believe and certainly not a major historical event while Spartacus was historical. Gladiator lacked the historical context to qualify IMO, but the thread allows for everyone's definition of the word. Gone with the Wind is certainly an epic film...

So The Ten Commandments was not an epic? I dont think an epic movie has to be historical, it just needs to present events on a 'grand scale' (whatever that is).

Ben Hur is definitely the winner for me, followed closely by Lawrence of Arabia.

Star wars and LOTR are not single movies so dont qualify (for me). Leaving those out, Das Boot (in German) is the best of the more modern epics.

	31-03-2003 19:22									#55
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quote: Originally posted by rah Others not mentioned. The longest day. Patton. The 10 commandments.

How could I forget The longest day and A Bridge Too Far :duh:. They're both much better books though.

	31-03-2003 19:25									#56
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Does Waterloo (with Rod Steiger as Napoleon and Christopher Plummer as Wellesley) count as an epic ? It certainly had the most epic battle scenes of any movie I've seen.

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I also liked "The Fall of the Roman Empire", the story has a similar background to "Gladiator" (Marcus Aurelius/Commodus). Of course it was not very accurate, but I liked it more than those bible movies....

Edit: yes, Waterloo was great

	31-03-2003 19:34									#58
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH *SNIP*LOTR are not single movies so dont qualify (for me).*SNIP*

LOTR was written as a single story and divided into 6, and then 3, for commercial reasons, by the publisher. It certainly could be a single movie, but it would be utterly impractical to have an 8 hour movie, in a theatre.

You could not possibly do justice to the story with a single 3 hour film.

The three films aren't neatly packaged, into beginnings, middles and ends... but together form this structure.

I'd say that for these reasons, LOTR:FotR, LOTR:TTT and LOTR RotK definitely count as an (as in one collectively) epic.

	31-03-2003 19:36									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Kurosawa's Ran

I like his Shadow Warrior better.

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History of the World, Part I.