01-04-2003 06:26									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Stuie There goes my shortstop... Jeter just got carted off. Jose Valentin is nice as short-term insurance, but I think I'm going to be shopping for a SS.

I feel your pain.. I have jeter in another league. Im royally screwed cause SS is hard position to fill in.

Damn Nomo beat Johnson. I thought that man like never lost. but I guess his loss records have to come from somewhere....

	01-04-2003 06:31									#32
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Oh Caesar, I left you a message at the yahoo fantasy site to put your pitchers into pitcher slots.

Too bad you don't have icq or I would have left you a message there. I guess I should have started a thread in the OT with your name on it so you'd see it...

	01-04-2003 07:30									#33
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quote: Jeter just got carted off.

I heard shoulder... is it as bad as Nevin's injury?

Damn, that sucks losing him in the beginning of the first week.

Berz: I think he saw it... he apparently put a message that he 'lives dangerously'.

	01-04-2003 07:35									#34
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Re: Jeter... Dislocated shoulder. Not as bad as Nevin, but no word on how long he'll be out.

But how 'bout that Jim Thome.

	01-04-2003 07:38									#35
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Very nice .

I'm quite pleased with my waiver pickup Kris Benson. And Radke did me proud too.

Durham had a good opening day, and since you seem to be a Philly fan, you'll be pleased to know the Lieberthal had a VERY nice day for me .

	01-04-2003 07:42									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui ...and since you seem to be a Philly fan, you'll be pleased to know the Lieberthal had a VERY nice day for me .

And I was giving you a hard time when you picked him. I really hope he stays healthy.

	01-04-2003 07:44									#37
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He'll be fine this year. I'm thinking around 130 games. He's two years since his big injury. That is when players get their full strength back.

And you thought I didn't know what I was doing .

	01-04-2003 07:45									#38
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unit wasn't so hot today either....

on the plus side, jeter's average will remain at 1000 for this week...

contreras is looking great (sure its only the blue jays) too bad he's on my bench

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... as is any conceivable SP you may have had .

	01-04-2003 07:49									#40
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....just as soon as i posted contreras is doing great his ERA skyrockets to 10.8

	01-04-2003 07:53									#41
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Ah, the luck of Caesar! Et tu Jose?

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looks like the gods spared me today

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quote: Originally posted by Caesar the Great ....just as soon as i posted contreras is doing great his ERA skyrockets to 10.8

Courtesy of Eric Hinske.

Oh, look! Hinske is MY third baseman. What do you know....

	01-04-2003 08:55									#44
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Cleveland VS Baltimore is prime example of good baseball game. Lots of confusion, tension, and a close game.

ESPN's baseball tonight just got another + for me. Bobby Valentine is one of the analyst!

	01-04-2003 09:28									#45
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Yep! Gotta love Bobby V .

	01-04-2003 09:35									#46
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HEY CAESAR! You gonna wait till Sunday to edit your line up to include some starting pitchers or live dangerously the rest of the season?

Btw, Nen was just placed on the DL for 15 days. Looks like his shoulder surgery from last fall is causing some problems. Might think about looking for a new closer too...

	01-04-2003 11:30									#47
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W00t I got Nomo. 9 IP, 7 K And Imran, its 'Et toi [insert name here]'

	01-04-2003 17:13									#48
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sunday 11:59 PM

I'd like to see how wakefield and graves do this week before i put them in..... and contreras with his 10.8 ERA is staying off, for now....

lets hope nen only stays on the dl for 15 days

	02-04-2003 02:58									#49
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Caesar - Hmm...a team without starting pitchers, will wonders never cease in fantasy baseball, and 8 bench spots to boot. So that's why you were the only one to complain when Imran expanded the statistical categories, you were loading up on hitters and closers while the rest of us were operating under the impression we had to actually have active starting pitchers. I guess the original categories Imran picked gave you an even bigger advantage just having 3 closers.

Everyone applaud Caesar on his ability to manipulate the statistical categories to get 2 advantages over the rest of us. He must want to win very badly...because if he wins, badly is how he went about it.

	02-04-2003 03:24									#50
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Bezerker just alerted me to something. A person could use one ace to win the catagories of ERA, WHIP, K/BB and leave the rest empty.

So, I'm gonna add a MINIMUM innings pitched for your staff of 15 (That is less than 4 SPs having 4 innings per start). That will prevent someone from doing this. This will apply starting next week.

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	02-04-2003 03:25									#51
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quote: And Imran, its 'Et toi [insert name here]'

Um... Caesar never spoke French .

	02-04-2003 03:32									#52
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so what are my chances that percival and wagner can pitch 15 innings this week.....

there goes my strategy

anyway, i was forced into it b/c my 2nd, 3rd and 4th picks were auto-picked and i was away so i couldn't get the pitchers i wanted - so i decided to try something more risky, thanks a lot berz!

	02-04-2003 03:50									#53
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actually my plan was to win; loses, saves, k/bb and whip and then as many hitting catagories as possible

and you will also notice that all my starters are/were relievers - so i was hoping to phase some of them in on weeks they had easy opponents (which if i had gotten back from math team states soon enough would have been wakefield + contreras)

i wasn't planning on using this strategy but my 2nd, 3rd and 4th picks (and almost my 6th pick) were all outfielders - by then both starting pichters i really wanted were taken (guess its my fault for not giving imran a list sooner)

quote: Everyone applaud Caesar on his ability to manipulate the statistical categories to get 2 advantages over the rest of us. He must want to win very badly...because if he wins, badly is how he went about it.

i'm almost gaurenteed to lose week 1 and unless i can get another decent starting pitcher getting up to 15 innings after that is not going to be easy - so i might end up getting rid of my pitchers and going pure hitting

winning isn't everything, coming up with the idea is the good part

	02-04-2003 04:29									#54
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Caesar -

quote: so i decided to try something more risky, thanks a lot berz!

Hehe, just trying to be fair. The rest of us were under the impression starting pitchers actually playing was required, lol. I didn't see much risk in your strategy, the top closers have awesome stats that equal or surpass even the best starters in 4 of the 7 categories so you effectively had 3 Randy Johnsons doing all your pitching, quite smart...and quite devious. The only risk was severly blown saves, but obviously that was a risk well worth taking.

Btw Imran, on the issue of daily roster changes, having extra pitchers on the bench and swapping them in and out of the line up to increase pitching appearances would only help wins and K's, and possibly saves, but it would hurt in 4 other categories. If I had 2 top starters and 2 above average starters, swapping them in and out with average or mediocre pitchers to increase innings pitched would also make the overall stats worse. Whip, era, k/bb, and losses would all get damaged by the less effective pitchers. But weekly roster changes won't kill us, even if someone loses a Derek Jeter to an injury on a Monday.

	02-04-2003 04:35									#55
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...i liked it better when people thought i had no idea what i was doing...

weekly roster changes doesn't bother me too much, but it does give an advantage to us who have nothing better to do all day than edit their fantasy teams... but the decision is imrans to make

	02-04-2003 04:36									#56
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Caesar -

quote: i'm almost gaurenteed to lose week 1 and unless i can get another decent starting pitcher getting up to 15 innings

You mean week 2? Imran won't make the change until next week so your plan will work this week (even without Nen)
If you want, I'll trade you Greg Maddux (my best starter) for M Ordonez. That'll hurt my pitching, but I could use the power and you could use the pitching.

	02-04-2003 04:41									#57
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i'm getting a bad vibe from the braves this year.... i figure if 3 closers can give me 4 or 5 innings each week, i'll only need another 10 but like i said before i might end up giving up all my pitching and just go purely for hitting

i'd like to see how some of these guys do first.... who knows wakefield could pitch a perfect game! and contreras has 3k's before that homer last night... he might be able to give me an inning or two each week

if i can make the minimum for week 2 i'll probably continue pitching otherwise i've got 3 really solid closers i'd be willing to trade

	02-04-2003 06:07									#58
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I figure Contreras for 3-4 innings a week so 10 from 2 starters should do it. I wanted Imran to add a couple pitching categories like IP to offset your strategy, or at least a minimum of 16 innings which he originally suggested.

	02-04-2003 08:14									#59
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if i don't make the minimum 15 innings pitched, does the other person automatically get 7 points or is it just impossible for me to get points from pitching?

	02-04-2003 09:41									#60
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Dave Roberts had a nice game. good thing i have him.