02-04-2003 12:16									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Trip MoW orders changed. W5 'BFM' will move East and head back towards the new city site.

That's BFW, thank you. I'm not going anywhere.



Well, not anywhere east.



Well, not in the short run, anyway.

	02-04-2003 13:35									#32
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OK, turn 31 played:

1) the hut was a standard ISDG hut, full of angry barbs
2) Wbigfree can see coastal waters extending further westwards
3) a problem with the worker emerged

As for the worker:

It somehow slipped everybody's attention that mining has been finished last turn and that the worker needed a new assignment. The original MoI schedule assumed we'd move him 333 from Apolyton (to the shielded grassland), probably assuming we'd be having guards enough by this time. Unfortunately, that's not the case. We would be moving the worker with no escort right next to FoW. Plus, there are barbs not so far away from there now. Such a move was considered too risky...

So, I came up with a plan, which nye agreed with and all the guys present in the chatroom (Trip, WhiteBandit, Master Zen) supported, too. We moved our worker to the forest adjacent (SE) to Apolyton, intending to order him to chop it down. This will allow us to:

1) cover him with Theseus (Poly garrison) at least a bit
2) insert 1 more warrior into the Poly build queue now, easing our stretched escort forces
3) still get the settler at the same time as originally planned

I just hope Dominae will not suffer a heart attack seeing amateurs meddling with his plans...

	02-04-2003 13:49									#33
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More barbs?

	02-04-2003 13:55									#34
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We need new candidates for the Minister of War position then.

	02-04-2003 14:05									#35
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I swear, we have almost as bad luck as I'm having in the ISDG PBEM #3 game.

	02-04-2003 18:28									#36
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quote: Originally posted by vondrack I just hope Dominae will not suffer a heart attack seeing amateurs meddling with his plans...

The unlucky Barb pops can be blamed on no-one. However, there was a risk there, which some pointed out, but no one took heed. Perhaps nye's "better safe than sorry" attitude should actually be put into practice.

On my part, I assumed (wrongly) the the Ministry of War would simply "take care" of all these things, given the tools I provided. Obviously this was very difficult to do. I'm still not sure why we're now in this situation, but I'll take responsibility, as I should have worked more closely with Trip in the past few turns.

As for the proposed economics change, I must say on first glance that I'm not at all happy with it. I would have expected a change that would not differ too much from the suggested queue (such as going for a normal Grassland or something).

Anyway, what's done is done, I'll see what I can cook up later on today. Maybe things will work out fine and I'm just agitated for no reason.


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	02-04-2003 18:52									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Dominae As for the proposed economics change, I must say on first glance that I'm not at all happy with it. I would have expected a change that would not differ too much from the suggested queue (such as going for a normal Grassland or something). Anyway, what's done is done, I'll see what I can cook up later on today. Maybe things will work out fine and I'm just agitated for no reason.

Well, we hoped that this would actually be a change as small as possible, given the situation. We insert 1 warrior (-10 shields), speeding up the following settler with a chop (+10 shields). The result is that we will have a settler ready with no delay, while getting a military unit we urgently need to protect all our valuable assets (2 cities and a worker = 3 units total needed), while not giving up on scouting (currently 2 units). There will still be one forest left in the Poly radius, in case we need to work a 1F/2S forest tile.

The only drawback will be if we seriously need the last unimproved bonus grassland mined and roaded soon... but we should be able to improve it with the delay of 6 turns max (8, if we road the cleared forest tile...).

Anyway - given the situation, it was dangerous to follow the original plan, possibly resulting even in the loss of our worker. Thus the decision.

	02-04-2003 19:09									#38
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It's not an easy job being the ones to have to make snap changes to decisions. All one can do is hope that others see your dilemma later on. Dominae - perhaps you can provide a backup plan in the case where there is some uncertainty in a move? That way no-one needs to get even mildly annoyed at anything more than chance.

	02-04-2003 21:10									#39
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More barbs, blimey!

The Great Banana still must not be satisfied, I assumed winning The SPDG and having an appleasement poll dedicated to it would be enough but I was obviously wrong. *hangs head in shame

We must draw up new Theological plans to sate the bananas desire for our warriors blood. .

	02-04-2003 22:14									#40
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We got rid of that GCA warrior - for now.

	02-04-2003 22:29									#41
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vondrack, the Turn 31 link in the Turn Reports listing thread (not sure what it's called) points to Turn 20.


Dominae

	03-04-2003 00:16									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Dominae vondrack, the Turn 31 link in the Turn Reports listing thread (not sure what it's called) points to Turn 20.

Oops... fixed, sorry.

	03-04-2003 05:24									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Dominae The unlucky Barb pops can be blamed on no-one. However, there was a risk there, which some pointed out, but no one took heed. Perhaps nye's "better safe than sorry" attitude should actually be put into practice. On my part, I assumed (wrongly) the the Ministry of War would simply "take care" of all these things, given the tools I provided. Obviously this was very difficult to do. I'm still not sure why we're now in this situation, but I'll take responsibility, as I should have worked more closely with Trip in the past few turns. As for the proposed economics change, I must say on first glance that I'm not at all happy with it. I would have expected a change that would not differ too much from the suggested queue (such as going for a normal Grassland or something). Anyway, what's done is done, I'll see what I can cook up later on today. Maybe things will work out fine and I'm just agitated for no reason. Dominae

Dominae, you really should attend the chatroom a bit more often. That way you can possibly be present when these things come up. Or you can talk realtime with the MoW about things.

E_T

	03-04-2003 05:52									#44
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I'm always in the chatroom, so if he stops by that won't be a problem.

	03-04-2003 08:53									#45
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quote: Originally posted by E_T Dominae, you really should attend the chatroom a bit more often. That way you can possibly be present when these things come up. Or you can talk realtime with the MoW about things.

I try to check out if something is happening as often as I can. Since I cannot guarantee to be there when something important happens, I'm fine with these decisions being made in my absence. I'm sorry if I sounded like I was angry that some Interior decisions were made without me. Mostly I was just angry that I have to do some extra work...


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