02-04-2003 06:55									#1
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this is the poll for the new regions of Sea bases and Hive Bases. The Sea Region would contain UN Slippery Ground, Circular Quay UN Aquaxenobanana and UN Peace Anchorage. the Hive region would contain all liberated hive bases, excluding new sea bases wich will go to the sea region. thus

Sea Region
Atlantis
New Zeasea
Sea State
Marinobanana! (mah-REEN-oh-bah-NAH-nah!)

Hive Region
Hiveria
Xenobanana!

3 days

	02-04-2003 07:14									#2
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You seem to have made another mistake there.

But anyway......*Notices how his region name for the Hive bases proposed ages back is strangely missing*

	02-04-2003 07:22									#3
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uh oh, another mistake? what now?
* Method groans

what was your name suggestion? i didn't sea it in the name thread.

	02-04-2003 11:42									#4
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Alecrast, wasn't it?

	02-04-2003 12:01									#5
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I think so. Might've been Lodoss. I can't remember off the top of my head.

	02-04-2003 12:07									#6
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Is it important enough to have to start up a new poll over it?

	02-04-2003 12:38									#7
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Meh. Suppose not really. It's not as if this game should really go much longer anyway.

	03-04-2003 04:58									#8
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IIRC, that was for the first base to establish (not conquer). and it was a base, not region.

	03-04-2003 09:06									#9
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Ah, soo desu ne.

	03-04-2003 16:19									#10
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Voted Atlantis and Hiveria

	03-04-2003 23:33									#11
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Hehe, voted write-in two times because all these suggestions are stinky crap don´t really please me...

1) Stormwater Islands
2) Stormwater Coast

Of course only if the sea region borders the new hive region!

Just a suggestion though.

	04-04-2003 00:11									#12
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Nice to see you back Micha. Where about's are you currently residing? Akiria is the only Borehole free, clean, safe and beautiful region left

	04-04-2003 00:15									#13
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oh, good, he didn't notice all the stealth boreholes we drilled

	04-04-2003 00:48									#14
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Marinobanana is losing and i'm the only one to vote for Xenobanana for the Hive region

	04-04-2003 00:49									#15
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What boreholes? Look again

	04-04-2003 02:09									#16
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Sea Region: Atlantis
Hive Bases- Write in: The Northern Protectorate

	04-04-2003 04:48									#17
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Someone should go tell Alinestra Covelia that her meme "Hiveria" is appearing everywhere now!

	04-04-2003 12:23									#18
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quote: What boreholes? Look again

They're stealth boreholes, of course you can't see them.

*AHEM* I believe there is currently a borehole in Cyclops' base radius, which was considered part of Akiria for a while.

	04-04-2003 14:15									#19
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I know, I have complained about that many time, but it is considered by some to be in Aurillion. That is why I asked for there to be a rule that if it is in the base radius of bases in two different regions, both should have to agree to poll it. I am appauled that TKG decided he could build it without my consent.

	05-04-2003 02:14									#20
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*ahem*

i never ordered that borehole. GT built it without my consent aswell

	07-04-2003 01:07									#21
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The Cyclops hole? Oh, I didn't mean that one, I meant the other 11 or 12 ones you can't see Ah, yes, bad form, that one

	07-04-2003 02:16									#22
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I have given orders for it's destruction. I will personally be pressing the plunger to make it burn in hell *cough* Sorry, a little distracted, it will of course, be taken apart and recycled

	07-04-2003 02:38									#23
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*ahem*

as DIA, i'm ordering that tile aurillian territory. the borehole will not be destroyed, thank you

	07-04-2003 04:02									#24
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Though you can do that, it would be going against your own poll that ratified the regions as is. If you want to change that, I suggest you poll for it, otherwise you would be overriding the will of the people. IMHO, it would not be

quote: *Serving his faction the best he can

If you want to keep it, we'll let the court decide. It is is Akirian base radius even, and thus the Governor of Akiria should have a say in whether it is built or not. Since this did not happen, I will try it as unconstitutional if needs be. Nowhere in the consitution does it say that the DIA can order something without the Governors consent. He can

quote: *Advis[e] any governor on how he should run his region

and he can

quote: *Veto... orders from a governor

but he cannot create orders. Moreover, that square was not Aurillion territory at the time the borehole was created, thus it was created unconstitutionally.

Order it Aurillian if you wish, and I'll see you in court.

	07-04-2003 05:01									#25
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Oh good grief, we've almost won anyway

edit - just to clarify: I think the Cyclops/Xanadu borehole is rather illegal, and that I'd have to rule accordingly if this went to court... but can't we just let the thing stay? It's not as if it was that bad of an idea, it's just wildly unconstitutional

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	07-04-2003 05:28									#26
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It's because we're about to win that it can't stay. I want to end this without a borehole in Akiria. It was my aim when Akiria was founded, it was my first (and all Governors) election speech, and I would hate to see this lost because people try to stealthily force boreholes upon us. If I had my way, we would have won the game without boreholes or ED, as it is, I'll have to settle for just Akiria, but I will fight tooth and nail to keep that

	07-04-2003 06:07									#27
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once again drug, I DID NOT ORDER THAT BOREHOLE. it's just that since it's built now, and i don't want to waste it. besides, Xanadu has every right to that tile that Cyclops has.

and you're right, i can't create orders. i'm simply exercising my veto power

	07-04-2003 06:49									#28
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TKG: I never said you did. I wasn't refering to you in that post, but to the borehole. It was unconstitutional to be built there. And yes, Xanadu has the same right as Cyclops. That is why I have been asking for BOTH Governors to agree to having boreholes placed where it is in 2 bases radius. Building that borehole was unconstitutional, and if you do exercise your veto power, I will challange the constitutionality of it being there in the first place.

I am sorry if you took this as a personal attack, it is not, and has nothing to do with any particular persons. I know you did not order that borehole, but that makes little difference. It should never have been built, and am trying to right that by getting it removed.

	07-04-2003 12:31									#29
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Do either of you have a map showing which squares belong to which region?

	07-04-2003 23:32									#30
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There was on posted in the poll for Akiria as a new region ages ago, which showed the line going straight through the square we are talking about. Hence it is borderline, in both Aurillion and Akiria. TKG takes this to mean that any Governor can order for it (and DIA can veto) whereas I take it to mean it needs the consent of both.