02-04-2003 07:38									#1
	Doc Ock confirmed as villain in Spiderman 2! Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

I thought there might be some here who find this interesting. Personally, as a long time Doc Ock fan boy, he was my first choice for a villain in the next one. The link below shows a couple pictures of the guy to play him. Should be good!
http://www.superherohype.com/cgi-bi...045703396,1467,

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Last edited by monkspider on 02-04-2003 at 07:49

	02-04-2003 07:40									#2
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Communists watch movies too?

	02-04-2003 07:43									#3
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Dude - this is wicked old news... What's important to know now is who is going to play the secondary romantic interest: Gwen Stacey or the Black Cat.

	02-04-2003 07:50									#4
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I guess i'm behind the times.
BTW, my vote is for Gwen Stacy.

	02-04-2003 07:52									#5
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obviously its going to be gwen.

I wonder whos gonna play the hot blondie in Spiderman 2...

For those comic geeks, I dont care if they cant make it good cause it would be hard to fit into one movie.... I want venom! and stop talking about how they have to explain where symbiote came from blah blah.. I just want him in the movie goddamn it.

	02-04-2003 08:20									#6
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Personally I'd like the Black Cat simply because I love crooks who are lovable at heart, beautiful, and not simply evil. I require my villains to have texture!

	02-04-2003 09:18									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Calc II I want venom! and stop talking about how they have to explain where symbiote came from blah blah..

God, read the current storyline Ultimate Spiderman and leave the rest of us alone.

	02-04-2003 09:25									#8
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I'm rooting for Jason Phillip Macendale (a.k.a. Hobgoblin)

I like him more than spiderman.

	02-04-2003 09:28									#9
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To be honest, I am greatly surprised that the villain isn't the Lizard. The original film mentioned something about "Dr. Connors" at some point. I thought it was foreshadowing for sure. Maybe he will be in the next one, for now I am overjoyed with the choice of Doc Ock.

	02-04-2003 09:30									#10
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc God, read the current storyline Ultimate Spiderman and leave the rest of us alone.

I hate USM. That pisses me off too much. I like the artwork tho.

Why cant they put venom in w/o good background story about the symbiote? hollywood does that all the time when it comes to comic movies!

I just wanna see cool Cged venom. That would be something i would look foward to in Spiderman 2

	02-04-2003 09:31									#11
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider To be honest, I am greatly surprised that the villain isn't the Lizard. The original film mentioned something about "Dr. Connors" at some point. I thought it was foreshadowing for sure. Maybe he will be in the next one, for now I am overjoyed with the choice of Doc Ock.

they mentioned brock as well. so venom must be in!

	02-04-2003 09:31									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan I'm rooting for Jason Phillip Macendale (a.k.a. Hobgoblin)

Macendale isn't the Hobgoblin. Roderick Kingsley is.

	02-04-2003 09:34									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Calc II Why cant they put venom in w/o good background story about the symbiote? hollywood does that all the time when it comes to comic movies!

Because it would be crap! In case you hadn't noticed, they're trying to do good comic movies now. The days of movies like Captain America & the Fantastic Four are over.

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quote: Originally posted by Calc II they mentioned brock as well. so venom must be in!

Hey you're right, they did! I almost forgot about that! Unless these references are just inside jokes to amuse the nerdy types in the audience, it seems reasonable to think that Venom will be seen in the future as well. (Besides the obvious fact that he's damn cool and will sell lots of tickets)

	02-04-2003 09:37									#15
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Since your our resident comic book expert DinoD, what are your feelings on this news?

	02-04-2003 09:47									#16
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Gwen Stacey should have been in the first movie, and she should have died there. Let the dead and forgotten remain so.

	02-04-2003 09:54									#17
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Gwen Stacey should have been in the first movie, and she should have died there.

Why? USM has shown that a real live love triangle between her, MJ, and Peter can be very interesting.

	02-04-2003 09:54									#18
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I agree with you Mad Monk, but there's nothing we can do about it now.

Gwen Stacey and that bus full of people should have been Spider-Man's decision, and he should have lost her as a result of that.

Now THAT'S tragedy.

	02-04-2003 09:59									#19
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I'm kind of curious how they plan on handling Harry's hatred of Spiderman over the death of Norman.

	02-04-2003 10:04									#20
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Good point Dino, with the introduction of Gwen Stacy, could Harry return as the Green Goblin and somehow be responsible for her death?

	02-04-2003 10:08									#21
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I just hope they don't kill off Doc Ock.

It was a trend started with the Joker in Batman, and it was a bad one.

	02-04-2003 10:19									#22
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True, but the Green Goblin (Norman) was killed in the original Spidey comic.

May be wrong, but I heard both Doc Ock and Lizard will be in #2.

It would be cool if the start a Venum storyline...kind of bring the idea in and he comes to battle Spidey in a later movie.

I'm a huge spidey fan, and I'm just glad their first movie was excellent especially when compared to other comic -> movie superheros.

	02-04-2003 20:11									#23
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Trouble with using Black Cat: there's already been a superhero movie with the hero chasing after a feline-female villain, who proclaims to love the hero, and whom the hero wonders if he loves. It's called Batman Returns.

And I personally don't want to see Venom in the films at all. He's never been that interesting a character in the comics, and he's a pretty one-note villain. After Doc Ock, I think they should do Harry-as-GG, because the "my best friend is my worst enemy" angle is too rich to leave untapped.

	02-04-2003 21:06									#24
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I know it was in Batman Returns, but I loved it so much there that I want to see it again!

	02-04-2003 21:28									#25
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Characters I want to see in Spiderman:

Doctor Doom (just for you DinoD)
Dr. Strange
Sandman (would just be cool special effects)
Hobgoblin (we most likely will)
The Alien Suit (we'd have to if we are to see Venom)
Kingpin (with Daredevil crossover)

The cat thing is out played... I personally could do without Venom as I am more of a fan of the earlier comics. Though the suit was cool.

	03-04-2003 00:15									#26
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Doom is a Fantastic Four Villian, he'd just crush spidey like a bug.

speaking of Doom and the Fantastic Four, weren't they going to do one?

One spidey villian that I would not want to see is Kingpin, it would be too easy to slip into the spider slayer storyline. Thank god they did kingpin with daredevil

Dr. Strange? please tell me you're joking, what kind of part would he play? spidey works alone, let's keep it that way

How about a Ghost Rider or punisher movie? it wouldn't be PG, but if you want a darker, more messed up super hero, those are the one's to pick from.

	03-04-2003 01:08									#27
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"Doom is a Fantastic Four Villian, he'd just crush spidey like a bug."
Riiiiiiiight...
The two have encountered each other before, and they are fairly evenly matched. I have the issue at home in my attic somewhere!
Spidey of course got the upper-hand.

And need I remind you of the fantastic 5?

	03-04-2003 01:30									#28
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Yeah, I have several issues with Spidey and Doom fighting each other. I also have some with Spidey and Dr. Strange... though Dr. Strange would be better in a Silver Surfer movie.

	03-04-2003 01:46									#29
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Gwen Stacey should have been in the first movie, and she should have died there. Let the dead and forgotten remain so.

Kristen Dunst could have played Gwen. The she wouldnt have had to dye her hair red.

Although MJ not appearing in the movie would have been odder, it would have been better if they were planning a sequel IMO.

	03-04-2003 04:10									#30
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider Since your our resident comic book expert DinoD, what are your feelings on this news?

Did you just call DinoDoc the Resident comic expert of Apolyton??????????

Incidently, I am completely against Venom in a movie, unless it is portrayed as it is in USM. Even then is stretching a point.