02-04-2003 12:49									#1
	MOO3 player wondering if he should buy GalCiv Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I admit to being curious. How is GalCiv? How does it compare to MOO3? Would you all recommend I buy it?

(Its history as an award winning OS/2 game reminds me of Pax Imperia)

	02-04-2003 14:09									#2
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Other then the fact that they are TBS games in space, they are really different.
But compared to MOO3:
No tactical combat and ship design.
No AI governors, but preset build queues you can use
Linear planet ratings.

But the gameplay is great, i can't remember when i've been so addicted to a game, and i've played CtP, SMAC, CtP2, Civ3, EU..

In terms of complexity i think it's a little more complex then Civ3.
The different victory options are well balanced.

There a lot of different play styles to try (military, trade, culture, diplomacy) with different alignments (evil, neutral, good), and different map sizes and AI levels can really make a totally different game. Add the random events and UP to that, and you got maximum replayability.

If you're not sure about buying it now, there comes a demo in then end of april.

	02-04-2003 18:06									#3
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	03-04-2003 01:36									#4
	Got spare money?

Buy it

	03-04-2003 20:45									#5
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You still play MoO 3? Poor sod.

	03-04-2003 21:25									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Yeah! Why do that to yourself? Give yourself a little luv and play GalCiv instead.

	03-04-2003 22:15									#7
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Galciv is a very different game than the MoO line; but if you're less interested in how polished a game is (the weakest point of Galciv, IMO- I'd give it a C- in the 'little things' category for the interface/manual) and more interested in the thought put into the gameplay/multiple methods of winning.....



YAR! GALCIV IS FOR J00 man!





In all seriousness, I wouldn't reccomend Galciv for a first-time gamer, but a gamer who's been around and cares more about replay than flash- be careful, you might be late for work playing this one, and stock up on caffiene; you won't sleep.

	03-04-2003 22:19									#8
	Tired of ads?

Last night I started playing last night at 8:30, next thing I know it's 1 am!!! Crap!

	03-04-2003 22:34									#9
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quote: Originally posted by sacjim Last night I started playing last night at 8:30, next thing I know it's 1 am!!! Crap!

If you like Civ3, you'll probably like GalCiv. The real downer for alot of people is the lack of tactical combat ala Civ.

	05-04-2003 02:45									#10
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Bought MOO3 first; didn't like it. Went down and got GalCiv; much better use of my money. Still not the best but is getting there. I'd REALLY like to see/be able to build the base. Sort of like Command & Conquer like.

	05-04-2003 07:01									#11
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Buy it :P i owned moo3 too. However i have now sold it and am truely addicted to Gal Civ.

	05-04-2003 09:19									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Yes, have some.

MOO3. Pants.

GalCiv. Pwns.

Now I feel hip and cool.

Seriously, GalCiv is a much better game in many ways.

M

	05-04-2003 18:01									#13
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Plus the fact that Brad and co. are continuously improving the game doesn't hurt one bit.

	06-04-2003 06:03									#14
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Its hard to compare Galciv to MOO3...almost impossible. I love MOO3, and hope that patches are on the way to make single player more playable. Galciv, on the other hand, is an awesome single player experience. The AI is more than competant. Overall, its a great game that'll keep getting better, as patches are constantly in the works.

I was just wondering if the developers are planning on expanding the game in anyway? It seems to be hinted in the game.

Quixote

	07-04-2003 19:58									#15
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

No hints about it, the (free) Expansion Pack is already scheduled for a June release, if I remember correctly. Still no tactical combat, and there never will be, unless Brad recants his public statements. This is something I can understand quite well. Tactical combat in MoO3 is more frustrating than it's worth in most cases, at least for me.

	08-04-2003 00:12									#16
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

there ARE tactics in galciv combat in the sense of knowing what and how many units to move and where. as there are usually not set borders and everyone's mixed up, there is no such thing as "sending your troops to the front". giving a "go to that planet" movement order to a ship can easily be a "go to your death" one

	08-04-2003 18:25									#17
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Hey, Mark: Could you write up your review for us? I'm really interested in what you have to say. [thumbs up]

	08-04-2003 22:50									#18
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

i'd really love to do it, if time permits....

	13-04-2003 09:31									#19
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Thank-you everyone for your help in making up my mind. I believe I'm going to defer my decision on buying until after the demo comes out.