02-04-2003 15:40									#1
	god bless ABC news Increase Your PM Length

so they wont show american POWs but they will show kurdish rebels getting executed by iraqis...fantastical

	02-04-2003 15:51									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Is it really necesary to underline that Saddam is a ruthless dictator? Does anyone buy the story of Invading Iraq for the good of the Iraqi people anyway?

I bet that as soon the USA finish their thing in Iraq, they'll let the Turks in to slaughter the Kurds....They already would, but they still need the Kurds to help them with Saddam. I mean, its not like they didn't do it before....

	02-04-2003 15:55									#3
	Full PM-box? Change here!

but its the fact that they explicitly went out of their way not to air footage of the POWs and now here they are showing people getting murdered...wheres the consistency on the value of human life?

or are only american lives really sacred?

	02-04-2003 16:08									#4
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

I expect you'll get an answer like "is AlJazeera does it too!". That doesnt make it right.

Anyway. My opinion is to show it all. Let the world see what kind of regimes the USA support, or recently supported.

	02-04-2003 16:38									#5
	Tired of ads?

quote: Originally posted by MRT144 but its the fact that they explicitly went out of their way not to air footage of the POWs and now here they are showing people getting murdered...wheres the consistency on the value of human life? or are only american lives really sacred?

To American television, yes. But this is a pretty common media approach to covering death. It is not an American thing.

In Canada, Newspapers avoid showing dead pictures of local people. Pics of a couple of dead people from another province, the US or western Europe are sometimes okay. Pics of dozens of dead bodies from another the third world are published without a second thought and no one ever complains.

	02-04-2003 17:00									#6
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

ps... dont get me wrong. As Tingkai said, its not an only american thing.

	02-04-2003 17:20									#7
	Get a bigger avatar today!

You know what I think is funny? They say that displaying the american POWs infront of the camera is breaking the geneva convention, yet they're all more then eager to show Iraqi POWs.

	02-04-2003 18:28									#8
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Hypocriscy on the part of the US gov't is hardly anything new.

	02-04-2003 18:46									#9
	Increase Your PM Length

I wonder how come we didnt attract any warmongers to this thread....
MRT... lousy job... sit... thats an F!!!

	02-04-2003 19:29									#10
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by Daz Is it really necesary to underline that Saddam is a ruthless dictator? Does anyone buy the story of Invading Iraq for the good of the Iraqi people anyway?

I certainly dont!

quote: I bet that as soon the USA finish their thing in Iraq, they'll let the Turks in to slaughter the Kurds....They already would, but they still need the Kurds to help them with Saddam. I mean, its not like they didn't do it before....

I fully agree

	02-04-2003 19:47									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Osweld You know what I think is funny? They say that displaying the american POWs infront of the camera is breaking the geneva convention, yet they're all more then eager to show Iraqi POWs.

Point of the matter is, it is against Geneva convention to publicy show interrogation or otherwise humiliate POW's. Merely showing them is not against the Geneva convention. Subtle difference.

For instance showing them being taken (although to you and me may at face value be considered humiliating) is not considered inhumane. Showing them being interrogated and/or forced to give testimonials is considered humiliating and inhumane.

	02-04-2003 19:49									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

quote: You know what I think is funny? They say that displaying the american POWs infront of the camera is breaking the geneva convention, yet they're all more then eager to show Iraqi POWs.

Not to mention completely restrained and hooded Taliban being shipped off to Guano.

Remember, this isn't a war- It the Super Bowl!! Lots of snappy logos and cool graphics. The play-by-play from former jocks (errr...generals) analyzing the strategy and breaking down the gadgets.

All we need now are Fox news Patriot cheerleaders (on trampolines, preferably).

	02-04-2003 20:41									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Thoth Hypocriscy on the part of the US gov't is hardly anything new.

ABC News is part of the US government?? Oh. Wait a minute.....never mind.

	02-04-2003 21:19									#14
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

quote: Originally posted by Osweld yet they're all more then eager to show Iraqi POWs.

That doesn't violate the Geneva convention.

	02-04-2003 21:31									#15
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

On an aside can someone here explain to me how to do ABC (Activity Based Costing) cos i seem to have forgotten and have an assignment for it!, Cheers

	02-04-2003 21:42									#16
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Point of the matter is, it is against Geneva convention to publicy show interrogation or otherwise humiliate POW's. Merely showing them is not against the Geneva convention. Subtle difference.

Subtle difference for sure, actually its not against the conventions to interview them. Its against the conventions to parade them, and they must be protected from public curiosity, which I assume means don't put them in cages and allow the public to poke them with sticks. From what I've seen the interviews were harmless and not humiliating and their is no evidence of coerced statements as Saddam has done in the past war.

The US has gone to great pains to allow reporters to see the long lines of Iraqi prisoners, handcuffed, some with hoods over their heads, on their knees with soldiers standing around them. Their faces haven't been blurred by the US media of course. Supremely hypocritical.