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Bereta_Eder
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I also dont see the reason for hate crime laws, but without refering to studies is hard to tell about their usefulness.
However these laws are ironic. They are supposed to protect the same way the people who want to be like everyone else but for doing that they underline their separativeness?
but without statistics, you cant tell.
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Bereta_Eder
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Uber, there was this tale that the Spartans threw "defective children" over a cliff... where they were killed.
But this is disputed now.
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Bereta_Eder
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the name of the cliff is Kaiadas.
still used in tales today.
however archeologists/historians say this was just a myth.
who knows.
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gsmoove23
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Why is the issue of hate crimes hijacked by people talking about homosexuality or minorities. It can be a crime done against a member of any group with the intent being to intimidate other members of that group. Its not intended to be a thought crime but a just punishment for mass intimidation. As for people trumping up charges, well they should take rape laws off the books too, and things like murder with intent, conspiracy charges...
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Bereta_Eder
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quote:
Originally posted by UberKruX
curious (and off topic, indeed): did the city-state structure of ancient greece have any effects on modern greece? socially? economically? genetically?
i'm assuming that enough greeks migrated around greece to overcome anything, but it would be interesting indeed. |
actually one of the prime reasons that led to the creation of city states still exists and contunues to influence greek life.
this is the geographical structure of the country which creates many virtually isolated to eachother spaces (and well protected), where people evolve in large by themselves.
so this exists still today, but of course the differences ine sociopolitical and economic evolvement is the echo of past times, modern transportations have created other parameters.
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Bereta_Eder
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uber, maybe u find this interesting: in a small tottaly secluded village in Karpathos, an island in SE Aegean, that is located on the top of Olympus (the largest mountain of that island) the people there (the few that remain) still speak ancient greek.
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Bereta_Eder
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the name of the village is Olympus too.
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Bereta_Eder
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minor threadjack,
of course the moral codes of the ancients would seem quite odd today anyway.
i.e. during some fights between city states, there was am agreement for wariors NOT to kill the other by hitting him in the face, so that he remained beautiful even in death for his lover (male that is)
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gsmoove23
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C'mon, go back to my previous post. assualt with intent to kill, pre-meditated murder... Give me a break, when a person is beaten, killed or property vandalized with the intent of terrifying a group of people their is a crime done beyond the simple physical act.
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mapfi
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Zurich, Switzerland
Jul 2002
time: 06:27
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Law distinguishes between several types of murder anyway like gsmoove says. I don't know all the english expressions but e.g. killing someone because you drive recklessly is punished less hard then going after someone on purpose to get rid of him/her. So why shouldn't a crime with disgusting feelings of hate behind it not be punished harder?
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mapfi
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Zurich, Switzerland
Jul 2002
time: 06:27
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here in switzerland manslaughter is split into two - you've got the accidently ran over someone not being the same type of crime like killing someone out of the blue (no planning) - the latter of course being punished harder but not as hard as murder. Then you always have the effects pof not being accountable or whatever you'd call it because of some psychological reasons or drugs for each of those crimes.
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gsmoove23
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I thought in the states we have murder 1 and 2 and manslaughter 1 and 2, but I could be wrong, its all learned from TV
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gsmoove23
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quote:
Originally posted by Zylka
Some gays are just so tied up in indignant thought and irrational accusation that I have no problem calling them queers, or fagg0ts. Keep in mind those terms are not synonamous with being homosexual, just used to describe the few hyper liberal, schizo as*holes who have hijacked a huge portion of gay political culture as of late.
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Alright, so what can I call Nationalist for being a whiney white christian boy. Honkey just doesn't work.
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gsmoove23
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Nationalist,
You're going to law school? Then you know anyone can get slapped with an unfair charge but its up to the prosecutors to prove it. Not an easy task unless the dufus comes right out and says it, paints it on his victims forehead or burns a cross in someone's front yard, in which case he most certainly deserves what he gets.
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02-04-2003 20:17
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