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Just heard on the radio that snipers are firing on American troops from the [i]Palestine Hotel[i/]. Yes, the one where all the journalists are staying.

American forces are requesting that juournalists hang white sheets out of their windows, so they know which ones do not have snipers.

No, this isn't from the Onion.

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Iraqis Launch Counterattack in Baghdad

By CHRIS TOMLINSON and HAMZA HENDAWI
The Associated Press
Tuesday, April 8, 2003; 4:21 AM


BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi forces staged a major counterattack Tuesday morning, sending buses and trucks full of fighters over the Tigris River in an attempt to overrun U.S. forces holding a strategic intersection on the western side of Baghdad.

At least 50 Iraqi fighters were killed, said Capt. Philip Wolford of Marysville, Ohio, commander of A Company, 4th Battalion, of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division. Two U.S. soldiers were reported wounded, one seriously, by snipers on rooftops.

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Al-Jazeera cameraman killed in U.S. raid

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BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 8 (UPI) -- Al-Jazeera said a U.S. missile struck its Baghdad office during an air raid on the Iraqi capital Tuesday, killing a cameraman. The network said cameraman Tariq Ayoub, 34, who was seriously wounded, died a short time later from his injuries at a local hospital.

A second al-Jazeera correspondent was slightly wounded in the raid.

Shortly after the bombing of al-Jazeera's office, Abu Dhabi's offices were hit by a missile. The network said no one was injured.

Al-Jazeera Correspondent Majed Abdul Haidi accused the U.S. military of "intentionally targeting" the two Arabic-language channels' offices in Baghdad.

He said that "the first missile could have been excused as a mistake, but when the second one landed, and then out colleagues at Abu Dhabi were hit, it became clear the bombing is intentional."

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID...08-040122-3967r

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U.S. Tries to Bomb Saddam; Tanks Advance in Baghdad
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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. forces mounted a major tank and air assault on Tuesday to seize the heart of Baghdad, after trying to kill Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) with four huge bombs.

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U.S. aircraft dropped 2,000 pound bombs on a building in a residential area late on Monday after U.S. intelligence reports said the Iraqi leader and his sons Uday and Qusay might have been inside with other Iraqi leaders, U.S. officials said.


"A leadership target was hit very hard," Major Brad Bartlett, a spokesman at U.S. Central Command war headquarters in Qatar, said on the 20th day of the war. "Battle damage assessment is ongoing."

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After grabbing a foothold in Saddam's main presidential palace in central Baghdad on Monday, U.S. troops clashed fiercely with Iraqi forces after moving out at dawn.


Two Abrams tanks drove onto the Jumhuriya bridge on the river Tigris, breaking out of the compound where they were based overnight. At least one of them fired from the bridge.




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Iraq Vows to Destroy U.S. Forces, Says No Surrender
Tue April 8, 2003 05:09 AM ET
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq vowed on Tuesday to defeat U.S. forces advancing in the heart of Baghdad with tanks backed by aircraft and artillery.
"We are going to tackle them and going to destroy them," Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf told reporters.

"They are going to surrender or be burned in their tanks," he said of the U.S. forces, asked if Iraq itself was considering surrender on the 20th day of the war aimed at toppling President Saddam Hussein.

U.S. tanks advanced in the center of the city from an overnight base in a compound of a presidential palace captured by U.S. forces on Monday. Aircraft and artillery pounded government buildings in the center of the city.

"Baghdad is bracing to pummel the invaders," he said.

Sahaf accused U.S. forces of attacking civilian targets in central Baghdad, including the offices of Al-Jazeera television. Jazeera said a cameraman was killed in a U.S. air raid.

"They are in an hysterical state and think that if they kill civilians they are going to win, they're not going to win," he said.

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Some Arab states have become hosts to US bases, says Lebanese

minister
Beirut, April 8, IRNA -- Lebanese State Minister Bechara Morahhaj
said here on Tuesday that some Arab states have become hosts to US
bases.
He told IRNA that if Arab governments did not compete with each
other in order to establish special relations with Washington, the US
government would not have been confident of invading Iraq.
The US has been successful in exerting pressure on certain Arab
governments, but the Arab nations will never accept conditions
imposed on their countries, he said, adding that the demonstrations
staged in front of US embassies and military bases in these countries
is proof of this fact.
On the US' recent accusations against Iran and Syria, the Lebanese
state minister stressed that the Zionist lobby, which enjoys great
influence in the US administration, is trying to isolate Iraq from
the world community
By exerting pressure on Iran and Syria, the Zionist lobby is
also trying to force the two countries to be neutral in the current
war in the region, he reiterated.
But both Tehran and Damascus are sensitive toward current
political and military developments in Iraq and cannot be
indifferent towards what is going on in that country, Morahhaj said.
The Lebanese minister further called on the Iranian and Syrian
governments to help settle the regional crisis within the framework
of UN regulations.
Both Iran and Syria are opposed to the military policies of the
US and Britain in Iraq, he pointed out, and for this reason Washington
is trying to weaken their positions as well as that of Iran as far
as developments in the entire Middle East are concerned.
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Japan urges U.S. administration in Iraq to end role quickly
KUWAIT, April 8, Kyodo - Japan's top diplomatic aide met in Kuwait on Monday the chief of the newly formed U.S. occupation administration of Iraq and urged him to hand over control to the Iraqi people as swiftly as possible.
Yukio Okamoto, diplomatic adviser to the Cabinet Secretariat, said he presented the Japanese position to retired U.S. Army Gen. Jay Garner, who is to lead the U.S. Defense Department's Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance (ORHA) to take charge of civil administration in Iraq.

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Talgat Tadjuddin Draws Blunt Saber and Declares Jihad to USA

The last week in Russia's Moslem community was marked with a scandalous trick of the so-called high mufti, the head of the Central Spiritual Moslem department, sheikh Talgat Tadjuddin that he played at a meeting held by the United Russia party in the city of Ufa. When the party gave the sheikh permission to speak at the meeting, he drew a large saber (as it turned out later, it was blunt), waved it in the air and declared jihad against the USA. Then he explained everything in detail to journalists: "Tonight, muftis belonging to the Central Spiritual Moslem department used facsimile telegraph to vote in support of jihad. So, we have already declared war against the USA and other aggressors." Also, Tadjuddin said that the war would mean purchase and delivery of ammunition to Iraq.

After the sensational statement, journalists, mostly American, besieged Ravil Gainutdin, the head of Russia's Mufti Council, who is also considered an opponent to Tadjuddin. They asked for comments on the sensational statement. This time the Moslem leader made some statements in the opponent's address that were harsher than before, as he understood perfectly well it was high time to act. He started an undisguised attack against Talgat Tadjuddin.

Ravil Gainutdin interrupted his vacation and immediately left for Moscow to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin. He told the president that muftis from Russia's Mufti Council had already made a statement saying that any attempt to declare jihad at the time being was illegitimate, extremist and populist. The head of the Islamic Committee Geidar Jemal and other members of the Mufti Council say that spring tension has particular influence upon the conduct of Tadjuddin. Jemal called Tadjuddin "a clown in a robe, mentally diseased, a provocateur.")

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Iraq's Ambassador Claims No Iraqi Soldiers Involved in Incident with Russian Diplomats

"Iraqi soldiers were absent from the incident site involving Russia's diplomatic convoy, Iraq's Ambassador to Moscow Abbas Khalaf Kunfud said.

"Russia's Ambassador to Iraq Vladimir Titorenko was outspoken" about the incident, Abbas Khalaf Kunfud stressed at a press-conference in Moscow on Tuesday.

The Russian Ambassador told the press that the US troops had intentionally opened fire on the diplomatic convoy at the Syrian-Iraqi border.

"We have nothing to add," the Iraqi diplomat said. According to him, "Russia needs to draw conclusions from the incident."

http://english.pravda.ru/war/2003/04/08/45761.html

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Amid gains, danger of guerrilla attacks lingers


By Brian MacQuarrie, Globe Staff, 4/8/2003

ADI HASAN, Iraq -- Captain Carter Price, a 30-year-old tank commander with a West Virginia twang, stood in the middle of Highway 1 yesterday, calmly surveying the scene of his day-old victory that shut down the main highway north of Baghdad.


The smoldering ruins of obliterated Iraqi armor littered this place, called Objective Patton. On this field, the Abrams tanks of Cobra Company had pushed aside the regular Iraqi opposition that so far has shown more mystique than muscle.

''This is secure, sir!'' Price shouted across to Colonel Daniel Allyn, the Third Brigade commander, who spent yesterday surveying the front lines where his 5,000-member force has strung together the northern piece of the US cordon around Baghdad.

Only minutes after Price spoke, an Iraqi artillery shell exploded about 300 yards away, causing no harm to anything but the captain's credibility. Staring at the smoke where the artillery shell had burst, Price put his helmet back on, shook his head, and said to Allyn: ''I guess I got to go kill that fella.''

Such is the tenuous hold that US troops have established a few miles outside Baghdad, especially here in the north, where US troops have achieved all their goals except one: the capitulation of an enemy that continues to battle the Americans despite incredible losses of men and materiel.

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US troops treated over mustard gas
By Hugh Muir, Evening Standard
8 April 2003
Five American soldiers are being treated for possible exposure to mustard gas today in the latest suspected chemical weapons find.

The troops, from the 101st Air Assault Division, were taken to a field hospital after suffering blisters when they came into contact with a suspicious substance near the town of Najaf, south of Baghdad.

They had been inside an ammunition storage room and were also suffering from nausea after they were taken away for treatment.


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GAS WARHEADS ‘READY TO FIRE'

By NILES LATHEM and ANDY SOLTIS
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Possible nerve-gas barrels found by coalition forces in Albu Mahawish Sunday.


April 8, 2003 --


U.S. experts will study samples of suspected nerve gas found in 20 newly discovered Iraqi missile warheads that may be the "smoking gun" of Saddam Hussein's long-denied illegal arms cache, officials said yesterday.


Pentagon officials said reports of the ready-to-fire missiles found near Baghdad - as well as chemicals in huge metal drums hidden near Karbala - were the hardest evidence so far of the weapons of mass destruction that U.N. weapons inspectors failed to find.

The 20 missiles were discovered in a warehouse by troops making a sweep near Baghdad, said a National Public Radio reporter traveling with the soldiers.

The medium-range BM-21 missiles - which travel 15 miles - were equipped with sarin and mustard gas and were "ready to fire," U.S. officials said, according to NPR.

It said the cache was discovered by Marines on the move with the 101st Airborne Division, who were following up after the seizure of Baghdad's international airport.

There were no other details given and no immediate comment from coalition officials in the Mideast.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in Washington that it would take "days" before sophisticated lab tests could confirm that site held lethal weapons-grade chemicals - and he warned that initial reports of such finds are often wrong.

But Pentagon officials privately were intrigued by the missile discovery - and by the 14 barrels found Sunday in the city of Hindiyah, 60 miles south of Baghdad.

Maj. Michael Hamlet of the 101st Airborne said initial tests showed the barrels held the nerve agents sarin and tabun and the mustard-gas-like lewisite.

But later, another officer, Capt. Adam Mastrianni, told Agence France-Presse that more comprehensive tests determined that the barrels only contained pesticides.

The barrels were nonetheless dangerous - some soldiers became nauseous, dizzy and developed skin blotches after contact with the three 55-gallon barrels and 11 25-gallon barrels.

All the soldiers recovered from their exposure, Mastrianni said.

Two of them were found to be suffering from heat exhaustion, not chemical exposure.

The barrels were found in a camouflaged pit near an agricultural compound.

There had been great interest in Washington in the discovery at Hindiyah.

"The chemical teams in the field are reporting this and treating this as the real deal," an Army official told The Post earlier.

U.S. officials said they were investigating a third report, by The Wall Street Journal, of sarin and mustard gas being found in a captured Iraqi military vehicle.

The report said soldiers from the 101st Airborne found the suspected chemicals in an Iraqi BMP armored personnel carrier. No other details were known.

If the new reports are confirmed, these would be the first chemical or biological weapons discovered since the fighting began.

U.N. weapons inspectors had no immediate reaction.

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TVN News:

Two journalists died and several were injured in attacks to Palestine Hotel.

A missile reached these Tuesday 15 floor of Palestine hotel in Baghdad, where tens of journalists lodge, among them three correspondents of TVN, causing the death of a ucranian photographer of 35 years from Reuters and the spanish cameraman José Couso from Telecinco TV.
The attack reached room 1503, where a reporter lodged, a ucranian photographer, who later passed away and a cameraman of Reuters television agency.
The explosion caused by the missile destroyed the crystals and the wall of the rooms, and made shake the entire building.
The attack against the hotel took place few hours after another missile hit against the seat of the qatarí television channel Al Jazeera in Baghdad, killing one of its correspondents and hurting one of the cameramen.

http://www.24horas.cl/detalle.asp?IDSec=1&IDCont=86208

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TVN News; Public Relations departmen confirms that their correspondents Santiago Pavlovic, Rafael Cavada and the cameraman Alejandro Leal were injured in the attack to the hotel where they stayed that caused the death to a cameraman and a journalist of Reuters.

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Franks' First Visit to Iraq: Meets Troops, Field Commanders

Pool Report by John M. Broder / The New York Times

AN NAJAF, Iraq, April 7 — Gen. Tommy R. Franks planted his boots on Iraqi sand today for the first time since the war began, visiting British and U.S. ground forces. He spent roughly seven hours in the country.
His purpose was both to get first-hand briefings from senior field commanders and to demonstrate that much of Iraq is now firmly in the hands of the forces he commands.
He declined to describe his visit as a statement of his new authority over much of Iraq. He said that he enjoyed face-to-face contact with officers and soldiers, to gauge their morale and to bolster his own.
“I think it would be almost impossible for anyone to see those kids and recognize where they came from and what they’ve done over the last two weeks and look at their mental state and morale and not feel pretty good about it,” he said in an interview aboard his plane after leaving Iraq. “I was pretty damned impressed.” More
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There is really on one source of reliable information on this war - and it's coming from Russian spies
You don't factor news into your model, but intelligence. There is a surfeit of war news, but reliable intelligence is hard to come by. The canny trader in these parlous days has a first port of call - GRU (Glavnoye Razvedyvatelnoye Upravleniye), the espionage arm of the Russian military.
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The suposed "chemical warhead" find was Pesticide...

Seen on Canadian television, I will search for a links on the Internet and post it here.
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World Bank not invited to Iraq
The World Bank has not been invited to take part in the reconstruction of Iraq, as the US prepares to install its own post-war administration in the country.
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Just to establish a link with Afghanistan and Irak, PoliceMan and local-Army in Afghanistan not received any pay in seven months. Taliban succeed to take over a Government building in Afghanistan.
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Yeah Ming I know it's a Iraq thread... but it was just to show to people what is coming to Afghanistan... maybe it's gonna be the same thing to Iraq.

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An American commander quoted by the Reuters agency affirmed that the tank had counteracted after having wiped shootings with the rocket and rifle since this direction. Centcom adds that "significant enemy shootings" came from the hotel. An journalist-assembler of France 3 however affirms not to have heard any shooting against the tank. On the other hand, the images recorded by France 3 show the turret of the tank clearly to make movement in direction of the hotel, the mounting of the gun to rise, then to wait at least two minutes before drawing, according to AFP'S.
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Operation Iraqi Freedom: Figures by AII POW-MIA

01 APR 03 : Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch, 19, Palestine, W.Va. RESCUED

As of 05 APR 03:

Prisoner of War (POW): 7

USA Spc. Edgar Adan Hernandez, 21, of Mission, Texas

USA Spc. Joseph Neal Hudson, 23, of Alamogordo, N.M.

USA Spc. Shoshana Nyree Johnson, 30, of El Paso, Texas

USA Pfc. Patrick Wayne Miller, 23, of Walter, Kan.

USA Sgt. James Joseph Riley, 31, of Pennsauken, N.J.

USA Chief Warrant Officer David S. Williams

USA Chief Warrant Officer Ronald D. Young Jr.

Duty Status Whereabouts Unknown (DUSTWUN): 8

Army Sgt. Edward J. Anguiano, 24, Brownsville, Texas.

Marine Pfc. Tamario D. Burkett, 21, Buffalo, N.Y.

Marine Cpl. Kemaphoom A. Chanawongse, 22, Waterford, Conn.

Marine Lance Cpl. Donald J. Cline, Jr., 21, Sparks, Nev.

Marine Pvt. Jonathan L. Gifford, 30, Decatur, Ill.

Marine Pvt. Nolen R. Hutchings, 19, Boiling Springs, S.C.

Marine Sgt. Fernando Padilla-Ramirez, 26, Yuma, Ariz.

Marine Sgt. Brendon Reiss, 23, Casper, Wyo.

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This little boy is one of more than 5,000 Iraqi injured, while his parents and his brother are among more than 1,000 who are dead. It is not impossible that he will grow up optimistic and proud, accepting of the price he had to pay for the liberation of his country. Some human beings are wonderfully resilient and forgiving, while others are not.

But still, this was a judgement that many felt they were unable to make on his behalf. For a lot of people opposing the war, this is the problem. There is a difficulty with deciding that other, unknown, unnamed people ought to be prepared to die or be maimed for what may or may not turn out to be the greater good...
...But even bearing this in mind, the cost of war has been bitter. Even now, as troops move softly into Baghdad, the humanitarian cost of the invasion remains incalculable. The worry now is that the encirclement of cities, with incursions designed to exact a psychological toll, and the threat of capture "at a time of our choosing", is as damaging to a civilian population without many daily resources as a more aggressive attack might be. More imponderables among all the imponderables that have turned out, for the American and British leadership, to be simple, black and white, decisions.
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DOUBTS ABOUT BARRELS

Tests on barrels found at a military complex near Karbala indicate they do not contain banned chemical weapons agents.

The findings contradict preliminary tests which were said to show traces of nerve and blister agents.
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Saddam Strike Plane Told: 'This Is the Big One'
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. B-1 bomber that aimed to kill Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in Baghdad dropped four satellite-guided bombs only 12 minutes after receiving orders that "this is the big one," the plane's weapons officer said on Tuesday.
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Iraqis are told that it is their duty to defend their country, but no one tells them where that country is. For the past 30 years, it was reduced to a single person, for whom the people were told to sacrifice their blood. That person even declared in the early years of his rule that whoever comes after him would find Iraq a wasteland. That prophesy is being fulfilled.
On the other hand, Iraqis are asked to surrender to the occupation, and accept replacing the local prison with that of Guantanamo. There are new 'revolutionaries' in the same trench demanding vengeance, and 'threatening' with a democracy that will be imposed by fire upon the Iraqis.
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Jailed Iraqi children run free as marines roll into Baghdad suburbs
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BAGHDAD (AFP) - More than 100 children held in a prison celebrated their freedom as US marines rolled into northeast Baghdad amid chaotic scenes which saw civilians loot weapons from an army compound, a US officer said.

Around 150 children spilled out of the jail after the gates were opened as a US military Humvee vehicle approached, Lieutenant Colonel Fred Padilla told an AFP correspondent travelling with the Marines 5th Regiment.


"Hundreds of kids were swarming us and kissing us," Padilla said.


"There were parents running up, so happy to have their kids back."


"The children had been imprisoned because they had not joined the youth branch of the Baath party," he alleged. "Some of these kids had been in there for five years."


The children, who were wearing threadbare clothes and looked under-nourished, walked on the streets crossing their hands as if to mimic handcuffs, before giving the thumbs up sign and shouting their thanks.


It was not clear who had opened the doors of the prison.


Civilians also took advantage of the collapse of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s authority to grab weapons from an army base, said Group Sergeant Jeff Treiber.


As marines were alerted by radio that civilians had seized weapons, Treiber warned that anyone seen to be armed could be a target of US-British coalition forces.


"With the weapons they are becoming combatants," said Treiber. "If they don't take the weapons they will be fine."


Other residents stole air conditioning units, television sets and furniture from government buildings in an echo of the looting that was seen in the southern city of Basra.


A 19-year-old called Haider said people had been ransacking government compounds since the morning to steal weapons and furniture.


"Since the morning, nine o'clock, they have been looting. They are stealing weapons and I took three doors," he said.


At one stage the marines opened fire after coming under attack from snipers, leaving at least two civilians wounded.


One man needed treatment for gunshot wounds to his stomach and left arm.


But his friend, Abdul Amir Jaffa, said he did not resent the Americans despite the shooting.


"Americans are coming to free us," he told AFP.





The marines became increasingly edgy as crowds of people took to the streets to observe their progress.

"It's a problem with so many people in the area. Its hard to tell if there are enemy forces among them. You have to be careful returning fire with civilians all over the place," Lieutenant Anthony Sousa said.

Troops from the Marines' 1st Expeditionary Force also entered Baghdad on the east of the city Tuesday as thousands of armoured vehicles and Humvees poured into the capital for a showdown with Saddam Hussein's troops.



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Another article about the US attack on the Palestine Hotel. Some interesting quotes:

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Reporters saw the American tank point its turret gun at the Palestine Hotel, home to most international media in the Iraqi capital. Seconds later a single shell slammed into the Reuters office on the 15th floor with a deafening crash.

The U.S. military said it had been fired upon first from the hotel, but journalists there questioned the claim.


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Central Command, the U.S. war headquarters in the Gulf state of Qatar, said forces received "significant enemy fire" from the hotel and returned fire in self-defense. Reporters at the scene disputed this account.

"A tank was receiving small arms fire and RPG fire from the hotel and engaged the target with one tank round," General Buford Blount, commander of the U.S. 3rd Infantry Division in Baghdad, told Reuters on the outskirts of Baghdad.

British Sky television's correspondent David Chater said: "I never heard a single shot coming from any of the area around here, certainly not from the hotel."

Swiss television correspondent Ulrich Tilgner, in a report from the hotel, said: "In all the three weeks I have worked from this hotel I have not heard a single shot fired from here and I have not seen a single armed person enter the hotel."


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Central Command spokesman Brigadier General Vincent Brooks said U.S. forces had been fired on from the hotel lobby but, when asked why the tank hit a floor so high up, added: "I may have misspoken on exactly where the fire came from."


I particularly like that last one.

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Norwegian freelance reporter Åsne Seierstad who stays at the hotel said in Swedish TV that a camera on a tripod on the hotel roof or balcony might have been mistaken for a sniper rifle by the tank crew.

She has been wearing a flak jacket for the last 2 days, and this evening she was also wearing a white helmet (for obvious reasons).

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This film clip ends with pictures from the receiving end of American tank fire. The cameraman was wounded. Comments in Swedish.


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TVN Journalist relates attack to Palestine Hotel

"Categorically I believe that it is a lie", emphasized the correspondent of TVN in Iraq, Santiago Pavlovic, when commenting the American version that justified the mortal attack against the Palestine Hotel adducing that the tank responded to snipers. All the journalists who were lodged in the hotel, where two cameramen died and other three were seriously wounded, maintain the same thesis. "I have not seen anybody armed in the hotel with a machine gun and shooting, we only have seen in the hotel people like us, who were working", "they are 20 to 40 cameras on the roof, that's the only 'weapon' inside the Hotel". During the attack, Pavlovic was in his room of floor 11 next to the cameraman Alejandro Leal, while Rafael Cavada was in the 16 floor, from where dispatches habitually. Pavlovic continues its story of the moment of the launching of the missile: "We saw with the camera when the tank aimed towards us and a sparkle in the tube of one of the tanks is seen, because there were three tanks". The journalist adds that soon after they saw it, they felt a tremendous explosion, but never imagined that the projectile hits the hotel. The projectile hit the 15 floor and according to Pavlovic relates "Rafael (Cavada) step down immediately" to the floor where the explosion took place. Later a total chaos came. People ran trying to help the wounded. "We arrived down next to the 200 or 300 journalists and the Iraqi officials", add. "I did not saw Rafael then. I was very worried about him ", because he saw one of the Russians journalist of the 16 floor that went next to a stretcher with a body that could have been the one of its companion. In the desperation, Santiago Pavlovic raised the floor where it was the attack, but did not see anybody. Later he watched downwards and he saw Cavada that was outside the hotel. "He was down stairs and he was on shock, because by centimeters, a meter, this projectile did not give in floor 16. He had much luck ", said Pavlovic and he concludes that "this tragedy struck us all".

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two U.S. airmen were listed as missing on Tuesday after their F-15E warplane went down in Iraq on Sunday.
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