03-04-2003 14:02									#1
	Kazaa reaches 6 million GB. Can the RIAA shut down file sharing? Inflate your Upload Space

What sort of legislation has been done in this field? Could I be arrested for downloading, can Kazaa or iMesh be legally shut down, etc. I want to know whether my free music supply is going to be threatened.

	03-04-2003 14:05									#2
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Kazaa can easily be shut down.
Othernetworks, not so easy.

(Is that okay Ming? Too much info?)

	03-04-2003 14:15									#3
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Your beloved eDonkey?

	03-04-2003 17:11									#4
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How can Kazaa be shut down easily? I was under the impression that it doesn't rely on centralised servers.

	03-04-2003 17:12									#5
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Is there any way the EU could protect ptp networks? Weren't they opposing it?

	03-04-2003 17:38									#6
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Is there any way the EU could protect ptp networks? Weren't they opposing it?

IIRC, two years ago officials in the netherlands raided several homes going after suspected kazaa users. so the EU probably won't protect P2P.

kazaa should be relatively easy to shut down, Sharmon networks (the owner) is nearly bankrupt, a result of all the legal battles they have had to fight. But another, and another will take its place.

	03-04-2003 17:40									#7
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BTW, do any Kazaa users actually use the original Kazaa?

Most people use Kazaa Lite.

I guess if Kazaa goes down it's back to /listing IRC channels for me.....

	03-04-2003 20:19									#8
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quote: Kazaa reaches 6 million GB.

Damn that's a lot of p0rn!

	03-04-2003 20:40									#9
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Bah I don't need Kazaa, one LAN weekend provides me with 200 GB warez anyway, a few LANs a year and why the hell would you want to download at 0.02 Kb/s when you could be downing at 10 MB/s!!!


I even have a friend that rips movies for me

	03-04-2003 20:42									#10
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Wonder when this thread will be closed? Not very long I think.

	03-04-2003 20:43									#11
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What's wrong with this thread? it's OT after all you know?

nobody mentioned illegal sites or the like

	03-04-2003 21:59									#12
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Piracy will never end...

	03-04-2003 22:22									#13
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Piracy will end when politicians will understand the flow of history, and make file-sharing legal. RIAA and alikes are desperately fighting against their fate. The tide is against them, and they'll postpone their unavoidable downfall as long as possible.

	03-04-2003 22:26									#14
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come on 29 euros for a CD?

dinodoc will say our social welfare system is to blame.


bring the prices down, and the problem will go away.

what if you lose some profits? big deal.


plus mp3 haring isnt necessarily bringing down sales all by itself.

in the uk people have been buying more CDs after cheking 1 or 2 songs in a p2p program.

at least that happened some months ago

	03-04-2003 22:37									#15
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A better system would be... lowering the price of CDs drastically, and giving the artists a wage every month instead of the artist earning money depending on how much they sell...

Naturally, some artists will get a higher pay as they are more valuable to the distributor, just like in a regular company employees who do more important work get paid more...

Also, in an entreprise employees that work harder and do more work and thus are more valuable than other employees who do the same work still get the same pay

Anyway this way everybody gains, except Shakira and the like, they will not be so filthy rich anymore, but they'll still be pretty wealthy, and at the same time, more unknown artists won't be so needy anymore,... the distributors will also quit the whining because we'll be happy and start buying more CDs again (I said "more")

Say does this make sense or is it utter and complete bs you think?

Of course this is not a very capitalist way of thinking so I guess it won't be pulled off ever

	03-04-2003 22:40									#16
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it's quite socialistic


but lowering the prices, in any way this can be done, seems like the only cure for themoment.

	03-04-2003 22:42									#17
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private FTPs for music
bitTorrent for videos

My solutions aren't going to be shut down any time soon.

	03-04-2003 22:42									#18
	Inflate your Upload Space

paiktis is back!?

How long did you get banned this time

	03-04-2003 22:43									#19
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I am a reborn christian


(which means I can get 5 wives wow)





I dont know.

each time I log on I dont know if im going to bebanned or not

but now im not trolling (so much)

	03-04-2003 22:44									#20
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay private FTPs for music bitTorrent for videos My solutions aren't going to be shut down any time soon.

private FTPs ?? well you're lucky, almost nobody has access to that except the absolute freaks heheheh...

Btw: shutting down kazaa would hurt the file sharing market because Kazaa is a major source for spreading files over the whole world..


ARfgh trolling, what the hell is trolling!!

I only know of Trolls as huge bulky beasts!!

	03-04-2003 22:54									#21
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lan @ uni > 100000 * kazaa

not only do some of the dorks here have terrabytes of data (literally), but i can leech it all at around a meg a second, average.

	03-04-2003 23:00									#22
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 dinodoc will say our social welfare system is to blame.

No, I said damn that's a lot of p0rn when refering to Kazaa. That's my sole comment on the thread.

	04-04-2003 00:23									#23
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX lan @ uni > 100000 * kazaa not only do some of the dorks here have terrabytes of data (literally), but i can leech it all at around a meg a second, average.

So 15 mins for a film... now that is quality speed

	04-04-2003 00:26									#24
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I could top that if my work PC didn't have a problem with P2P programs.


But I'm working on it hihihihihih

	04-04-2003 00:27									#25
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oooops.
sorry God

	04-04-2003 01:13									#26
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX lan @ uni > 100000 * kazaa not only do some of the dorks here have terrabytes of data (literally), but i can leech it all at around a meg a second, average.

all your university computers are LANned? The building I'm in also has a network (speed is pretty sucky though) but most people password it, otherwise everybody would be downing hardcore, slowing their computers pretty hard... so there's not much warez here

	04-04-2003 01:17									#27
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O BTW Trajanus, trolling is saying things like" well the walloons are certaintly much more civilized than the peasant flemish"


bull said with the only purpose to infuriate the other

	04-04-2003 03:23									#28
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 come on 29 euros for a CD?

You're going to the wrong places. I can find CD's for half that money. In fact, I just bought two DVD's for less than that.

Maybe things will change when the music industry will be about music again, rather than money.

	04-04-2003 03:31									#29
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Did anyone ever really think the RIAA could stop file sharing?