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Why does the anger of other people make Americans surprised? You started a war of aggression against the will of the rest of the world. What did you expect? |
Suprise they attacked kids. We started a war that needed to be started. I bet u didnt no that more countries are in the coalition that the first gulf war.
Btw: Ill look for more realible news scouce when i get home.
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Bullshit. Have you even watched CNN in the last 3 months? |
No, not much. CNN is bullshit.
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First off, nothing the *******s did was illegal. It wasn't violent and it wasn't destructive. |
No ****, that's exactly what I said. Please quote me where I said any of this was illegal. I thought I made it pretty clear that it was not...
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Secondly, you've got supposedly respectable columnists and commentators on air (on a station received around the world, BTW) using ethnic stereotypes to depict Europeans and looking rather pleased with themselves. |
What are you watching, Fox News? I have yet to see a TV commentator use ethnic stereotypes about anybody on American TV.
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Thirdly, your congressmen have been out in full force lately wrapping hatred in the American flag. And unlike here, they aren't fired or forced to apologise; they're lauded for it. |
That's also BS. A boycott is neither racist nor hateful, it's just not very smart. In contrast, the kind of behavior exhibited by these Canadians was hateful, and not justified in any way.
And further along the BS trail...
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Yeah right. American sport fans routinely boo the Canadian national anthem,even when we were supporting the war in Afghanistan, even right after four Canadians were killed by an American pilot. |
What are you talking about? I have not seen this around. Most people here don't even know that Canada isn't part of the coalition.
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We don't go around screaming about how the Americans are anti-Canadian. |
No, but apparently you do go around screaming how the "US sucks." That, if anything, is worse.
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We don't go around screaming about how we should cut our trade links. We don't even retaliate. More often then not, if American fans boo our anthem, we respond by cheering their anthem just to prove how civilized we are. |
 No, you don't. You boo our anthem far more than we do yours, but that's neither here nor there.
If you don't call the topic of this thread "retaliation" in the way you mean it, I see no reason why I should give validity to anything else you have said here.
If we are such bigots, why don't you post some articles of American bigoted acts?
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time: 00:27
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Originally posted by flash9286
We started a war that needed to be started. I bet u didnt no that more countries are in the coalition that the first gulf war.
Btw: Ill look for more realible news scouce when i get home. |
A) Needed to be started according to whom?
B) Utter crap about the sizes of the coalition. First, try counting the number of countries making an active military contribution (and, while you're at it, look at what those countries represent). Then, realize that the first Gulf War was fully UN sanctioned, and the de facto list of supporting countries was the vast majority of all UN member states.
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A) Needed to be started according to whom? |
Un resolution 1441
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B) Utter crap about the sizes of the coalition. First, try counting the number of countries making an active military contribution (and, while you're at it, look at what those countries represent). Then, realize that the first Gulf War was fully UN sanctioned, and the de facto list of supporting countries was the vast majority of all UN member states. |
We dont need military contributions, the Us military can more than handle iraq
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Kontiki
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Aug 2001
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Originally posted by flash9286
Un resolution 1441
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An interpretation the majority of the world does not share.
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We dont need military contributions, the Us military can more than handle iraq |
Then why did you bring up that stupid and incorrect point in the first place? Anyway you choose to look at it, this coalition is far smaller than during the first Gulf War.
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Aug 2001
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Originally posted by Olaf Hårfagre
Yeah, let them eat **** and die... |
And what?
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I said nothing about arrogant. I did ask how practical your government is being in expecting my government to be unquestionably loyal in the face of paying unemployment insurance to victims of your governments quaint views on 'free' trade.
But, now that you mention it, I would say it is fairly arrogant to expect that no matter what sort of trade stick your government whacks my country with, we will be there for you, like a loyal poodle.
I have news for you. Canadians are not your poodles. |
You don't seem to be following, so let me spell it out real slow like.
You are entitled to your opinion. So are the French. Its ok. I don't expect any loyalty, support, help, whatever. The French owe us nothing, the Canadians even less. You can think what you want. Its ok. Its entirely up to you. You don't need to "be there " for us.
That said, we don't need to "be there " for you. If Canada, France etc. wish ( entirely within their rights as sovereign free nations) to oppose us, wish to be our adversaries, why should they be shocked to find that we treat them as such?
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How is not joining in on the ground being opposed?
Was Canada opposed to Vietnam?
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Was the United States opposed to GB and the Commonwealth from '39 to '41? |
As to the first question, yes, that's why our cowards went there. As to the second, shamefully yes, the Democrats were in charge then.
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Sorry, skipped over the first question. There is really no question that the Canucks are opposed, is there?
As for the French, apparently only a bare majority actually even want us to win.
Is that not enough? OK, how about busily scurrying about the globe stirring up opposition to us when we were (foolishly) trying to get the Security Council to act?
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Well. I see that you exemplify the things that cause some people to mistake Americans for America.
Good going. Maybe some more Canadians will start to hate all things American after encountering more people like you. |
Odd that you would think Americans don't represent America.
As for "hate", thats your word, not mine. I would not suggest we should hate Canadians or French, only see things as they are.
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No, not Canadians scurrying, French. Sorry I wasn't clear on that point.
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I see no "frenzy" at all. Just normal people, going to work and living their lives.
I don't know what you mean by "bunker mentality".
Getting our butt diplomatically kicked by the French? Umm, okay.
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You think we should not acknowledge who our friends are, and who are not?
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I think at the start of this discussion, I made it clear that Canada, like any sovereign nation (yes, even the US!) can do what it wants.
But there are consequences to any act. We are willing and able to deal with the consequences of ours.
Are you?
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