04-04-2003 23:02									#1
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I have recently been filled with an inexplicable desire to become bilingal ( ), but don't know many places (infact, i don't know any) to learn languages. So if anyone knows what books, websites etc can help me leanr languages (any listed below) quickly and resonably fluently, please tell me

Languages i am after:

French
German
Spanish
Italian
Russian


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	05-04-2003 00:03									#2
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Mime

Seriously, dont start french, it's really hard and full of exeptions. Try german, it's similar to english.

Spec. (trust me, french is my first language)

	05-04-2003 00:26									#3
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Try Finnish. It's fun to learn.

	05-04-2003 00:42									#4
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Seriously though, isn't there any night schools etc, where you could take classes? Would be lot easier to learn I bet..

	05-04-2003 00:44									#5
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Try German, maybe, or Spanish, French is too complex.

Russian is very different, and it's nearly impossible to speak and write without mistakes if it's not your mother tongue, some very nasty stuff there.

	05-04-2003 01:08									#6
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man So if anyone knows what books, websites etc can help me leanr languages (any listed below) quickly and resonably fluently, please tell me

http://www.apolyton.net has been a great help for me . Oh, you mean learning some other language than English? I guess you could, after gaining some base knowledge, go to some "foreign-language" online forum and just bravely start posting. People won't care if you don't really know the language too well, as long as you show effort and an ability to learn. Our Lord Who Lives At Tampere knows that a little ambiguity and weirdness was good enough for him .

	05-04-2003 01:25									#7
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Spanish is regularly common and without many exceptions, so it should be relatively easy. pronoiunciation is simpler than that of German.

Once you learn Spanish, more langauges come within reach, such as French, Italian, Portuguese.

	05-04-2003 02:34									#8
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Actually, I've lately been wondering whether it's true that some languages are "harder" to learn than others. It is very hard, though, to attain native-like skills in any foreign language.

	05-04-2003 02:40									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Aivo½so Actually, I've lately been wondering whether it's true that some languages are "harder" to learn than others. It is very hard, though, to attain native-like skills in any foreign language.

That totally depends on what your original language is. German is quite easy for an English speaker and hellishly hard for a Chinese speaker (unless he speaks English too.)

And Andy-Man: why limit yourself to Europe? Try Chinese , or Japanese, or Arabic. I suspect that these might end up more useful.

	05-04-2003 02:46									#10
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Latin uber alles.

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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Latin uber alles.

Peasant! Attic Greek huper panton

	05-04-2003 04:26									#12
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pravda.ru and english.pravda.ru is everything you need to learn Ru speech.
Then after few weeks book could be helpfull.
What is so difficult on Russian language? It's much easier than spoken Chinese. Traditional Chinese writings Rulez.

BTW I learned English from books. Sunruner trilogy and so on. Then i forgot a lot.

	05-04-2003 04:54									#13
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quote: Originally posted by raghar Then after few weeks book could be helpfull. What is so difficult on Russian language? It's much easier than spoken Chinese. Traditional Chinese writings Rulez.

One word: cases.

quote: BTW I learned English from books. Sunruner trilogy and so on. Then i forgot a lot.

Eh... that's how I learnt English too.

	05-04-2003 05:41									#14
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I learnt my english watching tv, since we get all American shows here all the time.. I'd really love to learn Spanish, it sounds so good.

	05-04-2003 06:35									#15
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While I'm unilingually English, I've sung in French, German, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish, Hebrew, Russian, Latin & Ukrainian.

If I was inspired to learn a secong lanuage, I'd probably go with Spanish...

and rather than finding an Internet site, I'd recommend hanging out with people who speak the language.

	05-04-2003 11:03									#16
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quote: Originally posted by ranskaldan That totally depends on what your original language is. German is quite easy for an English speaker and hellishly hard for a Chinese speaker (unless he speaks English too.)

I think German is easier than English, which is very, very irregular.

	05-04-2003 19:13									#17
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quote: Originally posted by ranskaldan That totally depends on what your original language is. German is quite easy for an English speaker and hellishly hard for a Chinese speaker (unless he speaks English too.)

I can't say that this is completely untrue, but wouldn't it imply that Apolyton posters from, say, Israel or Finland would, on average, have much worse English skills than, for example, Swedes and Dutchmen (which does not seem to be the case to me)?

	05-04-2003 20:02									#18
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My native language is English, but I am semi-fluent in Spanish and Latin. I prefer Latin, though, because it is totally useless (unless I decide to travel back in time to the Roman Empire). If I were to try to learn another language, I would probably try to learn Russian, just for the challenge of it.

	05-04-2003 22:15									#19
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I've taken Spanish, Latin, Russian, and Hebrew. I seriously recommend German.

Spanish is prolly the most useful, however, German would prolly be the best to go with if you are not in a constant school setting.

	05-04-2003 23:56									#20
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the list i gave was of languages i intend to learn, ie, i want to know all

Russian shouldn't be to hard seeing as alot of the letters are quite similar to greek (trying to learn classical greek to )

I did spanish and french at school, but at the time wasn't really interested, but i do have a small basic in both, so neither should be to hard (and reading spanish isn't very hard).


Does anyone know any message boards for any of those languages then? that seems like quite a good idea.

quote: or Arabic

I've been thinking abouyt that one to

thx for the help guys, and keep it coming

	06-04-2003 00:13									#21
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quote: What is so difficult on Russian language? It's much easier than spoken Chinese.

Damn easy tenses in Russian, but try with the spelling. Difficult to remember when a hyphen is needed, something like iz za, izza or iz-za. Also, I know that some words confuse the heck out of everybody, native speakers included.

The word bezidejnij, is it proper to spell áåçèäåéíûé or áåçûäåéíûé , eh ?

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Emperor? you know hebrew? why? and how did it help you?

	06-04-2003 00:27									#23
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I think that it's the latter spelling.

because of "idea"'s original spelling

	06-04-2003 00:31									#24
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they both look slightly meesed upto me, i think maybe i need the language fonts

	06-04-2003 01:40									#25
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Learn Welsh.

What could be easier than learning how to pronounce Rhosllanerchrugug properly, or Machynlleth, or Cwrt Mawr!

	06-04-2003 01:47									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Learn Welsh. What could be easier than learning how to pronounce Rhosllanerchrugug properly, or Machynlleth, or Cwrt Mawr!

I don't intend to meet welsh people in my life

	06-04-2003 01:49									#27
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You've gotta hear a south-west Wales accent...well nice.

	06-04-2003 01:53									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's You've gotta hear a south-west Wales accent...well nice.

maybe i will have to consider it.

Though the 5 listed is enough for the moment

	06-04-2003 01:55									#29
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Well it's actually quite easy really.

Vehicles are the easiest ones...

Taxi - tacsi
Ambulance - ambwlans
Bus = bws

	06-04-2003 01:57									#30
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How strange,

so the Russians got 'Takci' from Welsh....