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Chris Woods is offline Chris Woods
Settler

Dec 2001
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Macromanageing the Micromanagement. Micro. Macro. Mmmmmm.... Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Hey all,

SMACX has me just as addicted as SMAC did ever so long ago, but I've run against something that has chaffed me.

Specifically, the base micro is getting just to much for me to handle, but I fear the governers since my experience with AI base management has been "it sucks"

Is there a way I can manually build a "giverner", or edit the queue the AI governers use so that I can ensure that a base will build "Recycling Tanks" then "Recreation Commons" then ... etc.

I don't mind handling the military parts, as I can inturrupt the queues to build whatever I feel, but I would really like to automate the base facility construction as I almost religiously follow a preset pattern with every base.

Any help?

And does anyone know if I can do this is Civ3 as well? (as an aside)

Thanks,
Chris Woods

Method is offline Method
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/me goes to France
Feb 2001
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  Old Post 05-04-2003 05:40
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Originally posted by Chris Woods
And does anyone know if I can do this is Civ3 as well? (as an aside)


i'm not sure how to solve your SMAC problem, but the solution to any problems you have in civ3 can be solved by following these easy steps:


  1. Close civ3
  2. uninstall it
  3. remove your CD from your computer, and crack it into many small pieces
  4. burn the CD shards
  5. call an exorcist


good luck

Googlie is offline Googlie
Emperor
Commanding Officer, CRYPTEIA
Apr 1999
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Well. you can uncheck many of the things a Governor can do, leaving it to just manage drones and build facilities - then you can add facilities to the build queue which in my experience the governor follows (experience gained from setting up AI scenarios - I shouldn't think it'd be any different with the AOI in SP games)

You can set one base as a template for all bases, or can set specialist bases (just air forces, for example)

Of course, at any time, you can oiverrule the Governor

G.

Static Universe is offline Static Universe
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Dec 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Woods

I don't mind handling the military parts, as I can inturrupt the queues to build whatever I feel, but I would really like to automate the base facility construction as I almost religiously follow a preset pattern with every base.



Do you use the queue templates, which let you save a list of items to build? You can right click under the "Queue" button to access the menu.

Edit: I mean right click, not left, I think.

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Kaptain Ken is offline Kaptain Ken
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Feb 2003
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Static Universe is right on with another example of why SMAC(X) is the greatest TBS game ever designed.

Static Universe is offline Static Universe
Prince

Dec 2002
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Originally posted by Kaptain Ken
Static Universe is right on with another example of why SMAC(X) is the greatest TBS game ever designed.


The funny part is whenever I play I always forget this feature even exists and rarely use it myself.

It's still excellent, though.

Maniac is offline Maniac
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Gent, Belgium
Jul 1999
time: 06:27
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Do you use the queue templates, which let you save a list of items to build? You can right click under the "Queue" button to access the menu.


Wow! I never knew that.

Static Universe is offline Static Universe
Prince

Dec 2002
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Wow! I never knew that.


That's why I love this game. Just when you think you know everything...

Patashu is offline Patashu
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The mechanical dragon
Feb 2002
time: 15:27
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Tired of ads?

you can save and load queues?
*slaps self*
why'd I have to forget that?

Lazerus is offline Lazerus
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Empires were built by dictators, not democracies.
Jul 2002
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all those times when i've had 80 bases and i've spent 10minutes stacking a queue of 8 for every single base so i can have a few turns of doing nothing

Kaptain Ken is offline Kaptain Ken
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Feb 2003
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Unfortunately many great features of SMAC(X) were never well documented, if at all, and had to be learned from experimentation or reading these threads. Thank-you, to all the dedicated players who have posted these features over the years.

Hercules is offline Hercules
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in Tir Na Og
Sep 2002
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Increase the size of your Attachments

I learn something everyday

spartak is offline spartak
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Dec 2000
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Increase Your PM Length

Its a real timesaver.

Flare is offline Flare
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Savannah, GA USA
May 1999
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You learn something new everyday! Thanks, Guys!

Alex is offline Alex
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Mar 1999
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Prince
Everything has its price. Even you.
Aug 2002
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Okay, that RULES. Get a bigger avatar today!

I'll be damned, I never knew about the ability to save/load build queues, makes me want to go home right now and fire up a new game, just so's I can record some useful builds.

Flubber is offline Flubber
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Aug 2000
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It can be really helpful but you can fall into the trap of using the same queue for all your bases and that is not optimum. For example, does the base in the centre of your empire really need a high armour defender??

Use the saved queue as a timesaver but give a thought to where to deviate from it.

DilithiumDad is offline DilithiumDad
Prince
Ohio
Aug 1999
time: 00:27
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Tired of ads?

This is true, which is why in single player games i have different que files titled "coastal", "sea", "frontier", and "captured".

I stopped using ques in multiplayer because it gives your opponents WAY too much information!

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