05-04-2003 11:50									#1
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Some choice, huh?

But seriously, which would you rather live under?

For clarity's sake, I mean real-life communism and anarchy (not some idealized perfect system).

Anyone who reads my posts knows which I would choose but I'm gonna keep quiet and hope for an objective poll. I am curious to hear everyone's responses. This is gonna be fun

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	05-04-2003 12:15									#2
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This poll is not valid: no banana option.

	05-04-2003 12:18									#3
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Exactly, Lord Merciless.

but since you're kind of an OT noob , I will spare you , and ask you one question: describe each of the systems that you want me to choose from. Examples will be welcome, also. there are many examples of these systems.

	05-04-2003 12:28									#4
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I think your referring to Stalinism when you say "communism".

Therefore I'd rather live under anarchy and then escape from that country.

	05-04-2003 12:30									#5
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to be killed by junkies with AK-47s in somalia?

	05-04-2003 20:49									#6
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I abstain from voting.

	05-04-2003 21:04									#7
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	05-04-2003 21:24									#8
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Hmmm... would I rather get run over by a bus or a dump truck?

	05-04-2003 21:36									#9
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*gives Sava the finger*

	05-04-2003 21:47									#10
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Your signature is very sad, Azazel (no one saw that). Sad because you know the ID for the OT, and sad because people will still know what it means. Sad also because I'm laughing so much at it.

Anyways, under Stalin-like regime I would certainly be killed for my beliefs, whereas in anarchy there is not necessarily a dominant power to silence me, so I choose anarchy.

And please, don't call what happened in the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, and Cuba Communism. Autocracy with a command economy, not Communism, that's what they've got. In perfect Communism, there is no government.

	05-04-2003 21:52									#11
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EDIT: I made a boo boo!

Azazel: Save your finger for the capitalists ... you should know by now that I favor some sort of Socialist Democracy that would have many Communist-style aspects. I just hate the name "Communist" because of the 4sswipes that created a murderous authoritarian government using it's name.

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	05-04-2003 21:55									#12
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Commie. Under communism, only the government can kill me without fear of retribution.

	05-04-2003 21:59									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Sava This war is sad Lorizael. And what's even more sad is that people are going to profit from it. And it is sad that you are laughing when children are starving and dying because of greed. Azazel: Save your finger for the capitalists ... you should know by now that I favor some sort of Socialist Democracy that would have many Communist-style aspects. I just hate the name "Communist" because of the 4sswipes that created a murderous authoritarian government using it's name.

I'm pretty sure you've horribly misunderstood me. Don't worry, I'm very, very against this war.

	05-04-2003 21:59									#14
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Another one? YAY

	05-04-2003 22:00									#15
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quote: I'm pretty sure you've horribly misunderstood me. Don't worry, I'm very, very against this war.

sorry then, I must have... remember, I'm slow, retarded, and often wrong.

	05-04-2003 22:02									#16
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It's okay. I addressed that message to the wrong person the first time.

	05-04-2003 22:16									#17
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Communism if I really had to choose. Though there will be lots of corruption, I'd rather live in a country where law & order is taken care of by the state instead of by some gangster and his clan.

	05-04-2003 22:36									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Communism if I really had to choose. Though there will be lots of corruption, I'd rather live in a country where law & order is taken care of by the state instead of by some gangster and his clan.

Unfortunately, Soviet party leaders were gangsters for the latter half of the 20th Century.

	05-04-2003 22:50									#19
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No they weren't. ( And I was there so I'd know ). They were just stoopid.

quote: Your signature is very sad, Azazel (no one saw that). Sad because you know the ID for the OT, and sad because people will still know what it means. Sad also because I'm laughing so much at it.

quote: In perfect Communism, there is no government.

I am not perfect then.


Gouvernment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	05-04-2003 23:48									#20
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a choice between A system and no system is easly made...i would chose for communism because it has some justice and anarchy as far as i understand doesnt has anything execpt chaos

	05-04-2003 23:59									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael In perfect Communism, there is no government.

INCORRECT!!!

In perfect communism, there is no STATE. There is, however, a government. The government and the state are not identical, though, in theory, the government sets the guidelines for the state. The state is the bureaucracy, the military, etc. The state is a separate body from the people, whose purpose is to perpetuate the power of the ruling class. Thus, we'll still need a state under socialism, because there will still be classes. Once we acheive a classless society, it will cease to have any function, and whither away.

The government is the people we elect. We'll still need a government to handle the coordination of society, but the tasks of the state will be carried out by the whole of society rather than a specialized group.

	06-04-2003 00:19									#22
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near anarchy communism seems best.

i mean, the ideal situation for communism to work would inevitable have to be small co-opperatives, no factory bigger then 50workers etc, and life based around small communities. in this instance what ever govt. there is would have to much effect on day to day life, but will still be there to oversee certain things.

	06-04-2003 00:20									#23
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oh, che, this is such a ****ing annoying differentiation.

	06-04-2003 00:46									#24
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I go with communism

Not much changes really,

As long as you dont criticize the government, you probably wont get in trouble.

You dont get exploitet from some greedy corporation anymore ... now the new great communist party - hurray - takes that job

You dont have to choose from a thousand newspapers which you wanna read. All the important and of course true info is provided from your beloved government

Ah, and you dont have to remember the new Name from your country leader every 4 years or so

	06-04-2003 00:48									#25
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quote: oh, che, this is such a ****ing annoying differentiation.

Totally agree. State and government are something different? Come on, now!

	06-04-2003 01:00									#26
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I choose communism. Like other people have been saying and how I've stated in a previous thread....

The whole purpose of having government is to protect it's people. Having no government (i.e. Anarchy) is pretty much every man for himself. Although it's a pretty hard choice, Oppression or Uncertainty & Fear.