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Pick THREE options. The system is NEW - Read my post for further info.
This poll is closed.
Level 1: Digital Sentience 8 50.00%
Level 1: Centauri Genetics 8 50.00%
Level 1: Frictionless Surfaces 0 0%
Level 1: Probability Mechanics 2 12.50%
Level 2: Self-Aware Machines (requires DigSent) 8 50.00%
Level 2: Sentient Econometrics (requires DigSent) 6 37.50%
Level 2: Quantum Power (requires FricSurf) 5 31.25%
Level 2: Centauri Psi (requires CentGen) 6 37.50%
Level 2: Nanometallurgy (requires ProbMech) 2 12.50%
Write-in 0 0%
Temporal Xenobananas 0 0%
Total: 16 voters 100%
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Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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Jul 2001
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The poll will timeout in TWO (2) DAYS.

A repoll, as the earlier poll was invalid - it was won by Centauri Psi, but it wasn't even mentioned in the poll that we'd need to research Centauri Genetics first.

I am going to use you as guineapigs try out a new system, so read the explanation carefully.

There will be two kinds of technologies polled. Level 1 techs and Level 2 techs. The idea behind this split is, that level 2 techs are technologies that require one of the level 1 techs. In other words, to research a Level 2 tech, we must research a Level 1 technology first. Note that I won't include Level 2 techs that require two Level 1 techs, as that would make things a bit too complicated.

Now, how will this be implemented in the poll?

Out of the choices, vote for three options. Three is the number of the voting, and the number of the voting shall be three.

You can vote for three Level 1 techs, three Level 2 techs, or any combination of the two; just vote three options.

Now, how do we interpret the results? This is where it gets tricky.

When I compile the orders, I will look at what option came first. If it is a Level 1 tech, no problem. We will research that first. If it is a Level 2 tech, I will order to research the needed Level 1 tech first and then the Level 2 tech right after.

Now, the votes of a Level 1 tech will not be added to the votes of the Level 2 option that requires the same Level 1 tech. If the poll is won by a Level 1 tech, and the runner-up is a Level 2 tech, I will order to research the Level 1 tech first, then the Level 1 tech needed for the preferred Level 2 tech, and then the Level 2 tech.

That way, if someone wants us to just research a Level 1 tech and then another Level 1 tech, his vote will not be used to research something he didn't necessarily want to research.

By all means, do ask, please, if you want to know something; I might have omitted something crucial. And do so preferrably before you vote, to avoid any confusion.

The purpose of the Tech Level system is to allow for the people to opt for beelining into a Level 2 tech if they find it necessary. I deviced this system so that the people could have influence on the course of research.

Edit - for further reference, techs we already have will be called Level 0 techs.

Now, onto the tech descriptions, for those who have lost their copy of the Standard Issue Tech Tree (and thank you for reading all that blather ):

Level 1 technologies:

D10: Digital Sentience
Secret Projects: The Network Backbone
Social model: Cyberethics
Leads to: Applied Gravitonics, Self-Aware Machines, Sentient Econometrics

E7: Centauri Genetics
Units: Locusts of Chiron
Secret Projects: The Pholus Mutagen
Leads to: Centauri Psi

D10: Frictionless Surfaces
Equipment: Cloaking Device
Leads to: Quantum Power

B7: Probability Mechanics
Equipment: Probability Sheath (Def 6)
Facilities: Tachyon Field
Leads to: Nanometallurgy

Level 2 technologies:

D11: Self-Aware Machines
SPs: Nessus Mining Station, The Self-Aware Colony
Facilities: Orbital Defence Pod
Requires Digital Sentience

E11: Sentient Econometrics
Facilities: Paradise Garden
Requires Digital Sentience

D11: Quantum Power
Equipment: Quantum Chamber (Rx3)
Facilities: Quantum Lab
Requires Frictionless Surfaces

E8: Centauri Psi
Equipment: Psi Attack
Various Fungus Restrictions Eased
Requires Centauri Genetics

E8: Nanometallurgy
Equipment: Deep Pressure Hull, Carrier Deck, Repair Bay
Requires Probability Mechanics

We are currently researching Homo Superior (which leads to The Will to Power). As we can not research The Will to Power without Centauri Psi, TWTP was not included in this poll.

As a final note, here are the percentages of how we have completed the tech branches:

Explore - 52%
Discover - 63%
Build - 71%
Conquer - 86%

There. There never was a perfect tech poll, and I suspect this will follow the tradition... This concludes this public service announcement. Go forth and vote, dear citizens. This is The Basement, signing out.

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Drogue is offline Drogue
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Voted Cent. Gen. for the Pholus Mutagen, Cent. Psi. for the greenie bonuses, and Sentient Econometrics because I love the idea of the markets being a living force, and I want a paradise garden

Besides, we have a distinct lack of Explore techs (only 52%) and far to much emphasis on Conquer ones (86%) for my liking. Although the Quantum Chamber would also be a bit nice

Like the poll style Kass, seems the fairest and most future proof (considering how many we discover) method I've seen so far. However, don't we get more than 3 per turnchat?

Jamski is offline Jamski
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D@mn. I thought I'd finally made the perfect poll with my last one. Hmm, good luck Kass.

Funnily, I'm voting the same as Drogue.

-Jam

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digital sentience () - network backbone and CYBERNETIC
Self aware machines - (just to make drug mad) Nessus mining stations!
Genetics - leads to PSI -> will to power ->Secrets of creation

Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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Like the poll style Kass, seems the fairest and most future proof (considering how many we discover) method I've seen so far.


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Hmm, good luck Kass.


Thanks

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Originally posted by Drogue However, don't we get more than 3 per turnchat?


We get one tech per 2 turns, and if I recall correctly turnchats usually gain us five, six turns. Also, GT suggested voting three techs in the poll this poll is a repoll of, so I went with that. Then again, we will probably have a turnthread in the week, so we might get over three techs. This poll result will be used as a guideline.

Drogue is offline Drogue
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Dig sentience will pass anyway, and if it doesn't, it's needed for Sentient Econometrics anyway, so I didn't feel the need to vote for it individually.

My predictions: Digital Sentience, Cent. Genetics then Sentient Econometrics.

DeathByTheSword is offline DeathByTheSword
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nice system hopes it works....so we have 4 votes right?

Drogue is offline Drogue
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No, 3.

Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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Oh, and by the way Drogue, if you vote for three level 2 techs, you'll be theoretically voting for a whopping *six* techs; the required level 1 techs and the actual level 2 techs.

Mr. President is offline Mr. President
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Digital Sentience! Ya-hoo!

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Tech, eh? I say Dig Sent, Prob Mech and Quantum Power.


Military. We can bomb Planet to peace.

GeneralTacticus is offline GeneralTacticus
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Self-Aware Machines, Digital Sentience and Quantum Power.

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Sentient Econ Self-Aware Mechanics Whatever next

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S-AM, SEcon, QP.

Why? ... we're supposed to *think* before voting?

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