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Wraith
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Austin, Texas, USA
Aug 1999
time: 23:27
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Been reading my Anime Apolyton threads?
--"Is it a stand-alone or is it during a break in the episodes?"
Between episode 22 and 23.
--"or recommend me some good anime movies?"
What kind of movies do you like? There's quite a range, you know.
Overall, I'd suggest anything by Miyazaki, Porco Rosso in particular. Jin-Roh (or any other Oshii works). Perfect Blue, Akira and Ghost in the Shell are other big name titles in the US. Grave of the Fireflies would be another good choice.
Hmm. I think most of the other US released movies are series continuations or retellings. Escaflone, End of Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, Ah My Goddess, the Tenchi movies and so on.
--"Is this some residual end of the world obsession Japanese people have had since we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki?"
That is part of it, yes. It's also a kind of action movie thing. Try some other genres and you won't see that. Grave of the Fireflies, for instance.
--"I'm looking for an anime movie with a very evil villain....but haven't found one yet."
You may not find many. Anime in general has less starkly good/evil separations. You might want to try Ah, My Goddess, since Celestine is trying to destroy the world, but he's not really evil.
Tenchi: Manatsu no Eve might work. Yuzuha is pretty evil. Or Tenchi Muyo in Love. Kain is about as decidedly evil as they get.
Edit:
While there's an anime thread going, I may as well mention that Azumanga Daioh has been licensed in Australia by Madman. They almost always license the English dubs from US companies, so I bet we hear about a US license this con season, probalby at Anime Expo this summer.
And Pioneer USA should be officially announcing their Haibane Renmei license this week.
Wraith
"Now let's be good little children, and settle down okay? Little brats."
-- Kiyone ("Tenchi Muyo in Love")
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Jon Miller
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I like Bebop
and some of the movies I have seen (like Ghost in the Shell)
Dragonball Z looks extremely stupid
Gundam Wing (something) wasn't great either
silent mobius wasn't that great also
(seen a number of movies I don't remember the names of, were ok)
Jon Miller
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Jon Miller
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one movie had to do with a train
another was Macross or soemthing
another had to do with female space pirates
can anyone tell me what the names were and remind me what they were about
actually, one of my good freinds is into anime (he hasn't watched any but Bebop, but he likes it and is looking up anime online)
Jon Miller
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SnowFire
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New York City, NY
Jan 1970
time: 00:27
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Normally I like to see things for myself before judging them, but my roommate saw CB: The movie first and has insured I'll never watch it (although I'll admit I looked over his shoulder occasionally to get a feel for the art). Let me also preface this by saying that my roommate is an absolute nut for CB (it's his favorite anime series) and is also a movie fanatic. However, he felt rather strongly that despite the bigger budget for nice animation, it totally defied the things that made CB a good show. Part of the charm of CB was precisely what Felch X was complaining about : the heroes are not out to save the city/world/solar system, they're random mercenaries doing comparatively small fry jobs. The rare times they do save a bunch of people (like with the crazy eco-terrorists who were turning people into monkeys, I forget the details) they never get paid or get any recognition. There's loving homage to Noir & Western traditions, but it's still its own show. And they occasionally show shots of females not wearing tons of clothing, but it's not too excessive or intrusive.
The movie pumps all these carefully moderated elements up, and destroys itself in the process. The movie makes no sense with the rest of the CB story: after this movie, the CB team should be hailed as planet-saving heroes who can have all the money they could ever want, so no more starving in the ship. The fan service goes to ridiculous levels. And even standing as a movie on its own merits (ignoring possible betrayals to the series), it crosses the line from "homage" to "rips off." A really sucky villian doesn't help either.
Yes, I restate again that I haven't seen the movie myself, but pretend like my roommate is here posting.
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Richard Bruns
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NC, USA
Nov 1999
time: 06:27
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The Cowboy Bebop movie is what got me started watching anime. The school´s anime club was watching it on the big TV in the lobby with the sound way too loud, so as an RA I had to tell them to turn it down. By the time I located the person with the remote control, the movie had hooked me, so I stayed to watch it. The combination of visual style, music, narrative pacing, and assumption of audience intelligence was quite refreshing, though I assume the movie is only mediocre by anime standards.
The Cowboy Bebop series is still the best anime I´ve ever seen, so I can´t offer many recommendations. Gundam Wing is almost as good, though. It has a similar style. The only problem is that they absolutely refuse to let main characters stay dead. After seeing Lady Une and Trowa appear to bite the dust, I assumed that I had finally found a series with the guts to kill people off, but they both came back miraculously. Bah. The glorification of battle also gets annoying after a while too; I assume that´s some kind of holdover from the samurai culture.
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Wraith
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Austin, Texas, USA
Aug 1999
time: 23:27
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--"I know Wraith is going to recoil with horror, but I liked the film a lot."
You're thinking of Chegitz. I recommended all the Miyazaki movies.
--"Wraith, you are an amazing resource. I just felt you ought to know."
Heh. Maybe I really should ask to have my title changed to Otaking.
--"The only problem is that they absolutely refuse to let main characters stay dead."
Yeah, and zombies are highly over-rated fighters. You'll never find a maid again, for one thing. Even the home-built robot ones really hate...
Oh... wait...
But yeah, you're right. The "I'm not dead yet" problem. The good stuff can stay away from it pretty easy, but it is one of the irritating cliches. I loved how Nadesico handled it, though.
--"The glorification of battle also gets annoying after a while too; I assume that´s some kind of holdover from the samurai culture."
More that samurai culture was an outgrowth of the same thing this is an outgrowth of. It's rather interesting, but only Japan has raised things like swordsmanship to the high spiritual level they place it at. This is reflected in their version of Buddhism, Zen Buddhism. It includes the belief that you can obtain satori, spiritual perfection, through a path of spiritual forging, saishen tanren. This was linked with the martial arts, and developed into bushido.
This isn't limited to martial arts, though. Almost anything can become saishen tanren if you master it. Traditional ways include things from archery and swordsmanship to tea making and flower arranging.
--"The glorification of battle was the main theme of Gundam 0080 (sp?) right?"
Glorification? Probably not. I haven't seen this particular Gundam series, but they tend to try to portray the harsh side of war more than glorify it.
--"Voltron!"
GoLion!
Wraith
"Let's Gekiga in!"
-- Gekiganger crew ("Nadeisco")
Last edited by Wraith on 08-04-2003 at 05:32
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07-04-2003 05:00
ACK!
At least I can still get manga.
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