07-04-2003 06:09									#1
	C-evo, the end of ICS Increase Your PM Length

I discovered this game at

c-evo.org

It provides a civ2-like experience with a few twists, and is pretty fun.
PLUS, like the title says, it gets rid of ICS in the most obvious way, by making the city square no longer free. A seetler costs 2 pop, and starts a city with 2 pop - one of which works the city square!

That's right, you still have to feed your city square workers, you have to worry about keeping them happy, and they're not for free.

the rules about food production have been tweaked a bit to allow for growth, like food prod over 3 in a tile gets reduced by 1 under despotism, instead of over 2. other resources under desp get reduced over 2.

I hope this is the right forum, I don't know where else to put it....

	27-04-2003 12:31									#2
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It looks cool. I just couldn't find the way to update my units. I understand it's not automatic, but I couldn't build anything except militia and settlers.

	27-04-2003 22:25									#3
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As per the manual, most units are not pre-designed. To build most units you must first research "Military Research" then you can go to a screen where you can design your units.

	28-04-2003 05:24									#4
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* Rasbelin summons St.Leo.

He's the right person to talk about it.

	28-04-2003 10:01									#5
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I haven't played the recent version much, though I've received requests to update the tribes that I designed for the 0.6.x release series.

Of course, if I felt like playing a normal civ game, I'd be playing cEvo. The fact that standard cEvo is superior to standard Civ2 is very obvious.

I am perfectly willing to answer any questions that you might have.

	28-04-2003 12:05									#6
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There's a game that's superior to Civ2???
There's a Civ game that's superior to Civ2???

This I have to play. Someone give me a link - quick

-Jam

	28-04-2003 14:32									#7
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Here you go:

http://c-evo.org/

Have fun!

	03-05-2003 18:54									#8
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I just finished one of my first games, and I'm thinking of trying it again, and maybe formulating a "three city challenge. a standard OCC is impossible, since you need a city with each of the three rare resources. perhaps you can build your first city somewhere, and when you find sites with the resources, you can build cities where they exist and disband your first city if it's not on one.

I learned pretty quick that using caravans in the old fashion is difficult since it takes 2 shields to support a caravan. Hence the Statue of Liberty (no support for units unmoving in cities) is essential. The Eiffel Tower ( no expiration on wonders) is invaluable for wonder building civs also.

I did have one thing I don't understand. I am a bit put off by having to research units as if they were techs, so I do it not often. somewhere I made a unit for defense and later on discovered a message saying "this unit may only travel on roads and railroads". I don't remember putting that into the design, and that wasn't part of an earlier units restrictions. I don't know what happened.

	03-05-2003 23:35									#9
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somewhere I made a unit for defense and later on discovered a message saying "this unit may only travel on roads and railroads".

That's what "heavyweight" means in unit design.

	17-05-2003 17:23									#10
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo somewhere I made a unit for defense and later on discovered a message saying "this unit may only travel on roads and railroads". That's what "heavyweight" means in unit design.

I didn't think I had made it heavyweight when I designed it. I'll have to go back and check...

	25-05-2003 19:34									#11
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hmm, this looks VERY promising! And it even fits a single 1.44 disc!!

	26-05-2003 01:16									#12
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OK, I can't go back and check because I started that map over and erased the previous game.

I'm having trouble hunting down another bug. it seems like one of my mines up and disappeared on me, I'll have to go through turn by turn and see if I can see it happen.

but problems aside, this piece of Freeware may be the best version of civ yet made. I just had a game where I built lots of armies of slaves to improve the terrain (AOS's are kind of the workers of civ-evo. still take 2 pop and just as many shields to build, but can't found cities and doesn't take food to support). I had to build the pyramids to get them, and was worried when industialization was coming up, which would obsolete the pyramids and free all my slaves. I used a bunch of freight to rush build the eiffel tower (no obsolescence), and spent some money to finish building it the same turn I discovered industialization. Whew!

Freight are difficult to stockpile, as the require 2 shields support each, but I got around that by building the Statue of Liberty, which makes unmoved units in cities require no support. the I could stockpile them to my heart's content. money in the bank.

I wonder If somebody can make an effective 3 city strategy for this game. would be impressive.

	13-06-2003 13:23									#13
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C-evo is the best non-sid-civ civ game I tried.

	13-06-2003 13:23									#14
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I mean C-evo is the best non-commorcal civ game I tried, CtP1 is the best non-sid civ-game

Last edited by Pave on 13-06-2003 at 15:09