07-04-2003 17:48									#1
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Well I'm almost two-thirds of my way through a Bsc Economics degree at Aberystwyth.

I love the town but it is small, and the chances of earning over even £10k are minimal unless I have a good understanding of Welsh. Which I haven't got.

I've heard the demand for economics degrees is greater in the States and I would earn a far greater salary but I doubt I'll go there. I don't think I'll go the Masters route either.

I can't see myself living in London or any other large urban area...

I know what I don't want to do but I've not yet seen something that really appeals.

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	07-04-2003 17:50									#2
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I didn't think the boyos could discriminate if you couldn't speak welsh

	07-04-2003 17:52									#3
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It's Wales, The Stinger.

It's like saying the French couldn't discriminate if you can't speak French.

	07-04-2003 17:54									#4
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No only a minority speak welsh, so it seems a bit harsh if you can't get a job without it.

	07-04-2003 17:54									#5
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you're having a laugh right, no bugger in wales actually speaks welsh.

what sort of job/career do you want?

	07-04-2003 17:55									#6
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Not many jobs for economists with no higher degree.

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quote: I've heard the demand for economics degrees is greater in the States and I would earn a far greater salary but I doubt I'll go there. I don't think I'll go the Masters route either.

If you go to the US you should be full of self-loathing. There is nothing worse than economic migrants stealing local jobs.

	07-04-2003 17:56									#8
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Not many jobs for economists outside cities I would think either? Start your own business.

	07-04-2003 17:57									#9
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Most advertisements in the Cambrian News for anything about Clerical Assistance, TheStinger, require either a knowledge of Welsh, or a good understanding of it. I know at least eight Welsh speakers.

That's the thing Cockney; I've not actually heard about something that I want to do!

	07-04-2003 17:59									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat Not many jobs for economists outside cities I would think either? Start your own business.

That's a possibility but I'd need capital.

Very good Big Crunch.

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You'll be exempt form some accountancy modules if you chose that option

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well you must have some vauge idea...

and yeah i think i know two people who speak welsh, but what's the point, they even speak to each other in english, i doubt they'll ever use it.

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A good freind of mine is rampantly welsh, he can only swear in the language.

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Boddies, people always need other people to sell them burgers.

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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Boddies, people always need other people to sell them burgers.

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Just work in the City bod, you'll have very little other options being an economist, unless you go into Accounting instead (as stinger says, you'll get some exemptions (altho still years of qualificatons to do tho).
If you work in the City you can commute from a rural area.

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Become a racing tipster, you'll have more success than economists do

	07-04-2003 19:17									#19
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Ha ha..well, at the end of the day, I don't need to do an Economics-related job. A degree is mainly a signal of ability - there's little I've learnt that can actually be applied in the world of work.

Economics is a great degree as it combines the best parts of arts and science. it gives you a grounding in how people behaviour, and additionally a good mathematical/statistical basis. Not many subjects give both of those.

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I thought it was dull. but yes it shows you can add up and write an essay so its quite useful

	07-04-2003 19:21									#21
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It's quite interesting to see how ideas you have in your mind actually work their ways into theories that you already kind of knew.

For example, I'd always say to mates that getting into a bit of debt at our stage of lives in no big deal at all, as we'll earn it all back plus a lot more besides. Now I find Friedman and Modgliani have already espoused this.

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You should get a job writing editorials for the Daily Mail.

	07-04-2003 19:40									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Now I find Friedman and Modgliani have already espoused this.

Modigliani (and his mate Miller) was a bit of a nonce. I can't believe they got a Nobel prize for saying that getting into debt upto your ears is good and that you can ignore the effects of financial distress.

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"getting into debt upto your ears is good"

That's like saying it's pointless borrowing in order to invest.

	07-04-2003 19:46									#25
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Its pointless borrowing if you pay more in interest that you receive in returns.

	07-04-2003 19:47									#26
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Hmm for this prupose it is the same though.

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The only way to get a real good job nowadays is to get a Masters or PhD level degree. Learning a few languages (French, German, Spanish would b emy suggestions) helps as well.

	07-04-2003 19:48									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Hmm for this prupose it is the same though.

I edited my post. I misread what you wrote at first.

	07-04-2003 19:53									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch Its pointless borrowing if you pay more in interest that you receive in returns.

The returns on education have been estimated at 7% for every extra year spent in formal education (my tutor wrote the paper - another one is here www.qmw.ac.uk/~ugte153/WSiteDocs/twinsjune00.pdf ).

Anyway, I don't see how your posts are relating to my post a few posts back. Just after an argument?

	07-04-2003 20:04									#30
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I was just commenting on Modigliani's madness in general, whether you get into debt or not is entirely upto you. Wasn't really what I was focusing on.