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GePap is offline GePap
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Nov 2001
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Is that NYC is getting several inches of snow, IN APRIL!

COME ON, THIS ISN'T CHICAGO!

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Sep 2000
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Global warming?

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"Global Warming" is a misnomer. Although it is specifically refering to the rising average temperature, the issue is really about the climate changes that occur as a result.

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Right! You guys clean your roads with garbage trucks with shovels mounted on them. Haha!

Admit it, every blizzard you get you need our help.

Oh, BTW, here it's 10 degrees celcius!

Spec.

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Jun 2002
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California kcks arse; warm and sunny here!

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New Yorkers can handle snow. It's the Southerners who are helpless in anything but rain.

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Right! You guys clean your roads with garbage trucks with shovels mounted on them. Haha!

Admit it, every blizzard you get you need our help.

Oh, BTW, here it's 10 degrees celcius!

Spec.


Maybe Buffalo, but no canukcs are needed all the way down to NYC.
Oh, and People in Southern California are helpless in the rain...so thank god there is no snow in LA, cause the freeways would be aflame from all the crashes..might even start a new riot.

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Ppl in SoCal are helpless in the rain, snow, sunny days below 70, and sunny days above 90... So?

I think if there is a chance of rain then the speed limits drop by 10 mph as everyone is waiting for this mysterious thing they call "rain"?

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Oct 1999
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18 degrees here..sat outside in shorts and t-shirt.

Keep on pumping out that CO2.

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Seems as good a place as any...

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Middle Ages were warmer than today, say scientists
By Robert Matthews, Science Correspondent
(Filed: 06/04/2003)


Claims that man-made pollution is causing "unprecedented" global warming have been seriously undermined by new research which shows that the Earth was warmer during the Middle Ages.

From the outset of the global warming debate in the late 1980s, environmentalists have said that temperatures are rising higher and faster than ever before, leading some scientists to conclude that greenhouse gases from cars and power stations are causing these "record-breaking" global temperatures.

Last year, scientists working for the UK Climate Impacts Programme said that global temperatures were "the hottest since records began" and added: "We are pretty sure that climate change due to human activity is here and it's accelerating."

This announcement followed research published in 1998, when scientists at the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia declared that the 1990s had been hotter than any other period for 1,000 years.

Such claims have now been sharply contradicted by the most comprehensive study yet of global temperature over the past 1,000 years. A review of more than 240 scientific studies has shown that today's temperatures are neither the warmest over the past millennium, nor are they producing the most extreme weather - in stark contrast to the claims of the environmentalists.

The review, carried out by a team from Harvard University, examined the findings of studies of so-called "temperature proxies" such as tree rings, ice cores and historical accounts which allow scientists to estimate temperatures prevailing at sites around the world.

The findings prove that the world experienced a Medieval Warm Period between the ninth and 14th centuries with global temperatures significantly higher even than today.

They also confirm claims that a Little Ice Age set in around 1300, during which the world cooled dramatically. Since 1900, the world has begun to warm up again - but has still to reach the balmy temperatures of the Middle Ages.

The timing of the end of the Little Ice Age is especially significant, as it implies that the records used by climate scientists date from a time when the Earth was relatively cold, thereby exaggerating the significance of today's temperature rise.

According to the researchers, the evidence confirms suspicions that today's "unprecedented" temperatures are simply the result of examining temperature change over too short a period of time.
The study, about to be published in the journal Energy and Environment, has been welcomed by sceptics of global warming, who say it puts the claims of environmentalists in proper context. Until now, suggestions that the Middle Ages were as warm as the 21st century had been largely anecdotal and were often challenged by believers in man-made global warming.

Dr Philip Stott, the professor emeritus of bio-geography at the University of London, told The Telegraph: "What has been forgotten in all the discussion about global warming is a proper sense of history."

According to Prof Stott, the evidence also undermines doom-laden predictions about the effect of higher global temperatures. "During the Medieval Warm Period, the world was warmer even than today, and history shows that it was a wonderful period of plenty for everyone."

In contrast, said Prof Stott, severe famines and economic collapse followed the onset of the Little Ice Age around 1300. He said: "When the temperature started to drop, harvests failed and England's vine industry died. It makes one wonder why there is so much fear of warmth."

The United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the official voice of global warming research, has conceded the possibility that today's "record-breaking" temperatures may be at least partly caused by the Earth recovering from a relatively cold period in recent history. While the evidence for entirely natural changes in the Earth's temperature continues to grow, its causes still remain mysterious.

Dr Simon Brown, the climate extremes research manager at the Meteorological Office at Bracknell, said that the present consensus among scientists on the IPCC was that the Medieval Warm Period could not be used to judge the significance of existing warming.

Dr Brown said: "The conclusion that 20th century warming is not unusual relies on the assertion that the Medieval Warm Period was a global phenomenon. This is not the conclusion of IPCC."

He added that there were also doubts about the reliability of temperature proxies such as tree rings: "They are not able to capture the recent warming of the last 50 years," he said.

4 April 2003: English strawberries on shelves in record time
20 February 2003: Britain faces drier summers and flooding
4 February 2003: Climate change plagues hay fever sufferers
30 November 2002: Growth in flights will wreck climate, says commission



http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/n.../06/ixhome.html

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Measurement bias.

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Maybe Buffalo, but no canukcs are needed all the way down to NYC.



Hehem....May I remind you that you asked for our help in 97, 99 and the last big blizzard you just had a month ago.....Short memory I see....or do they just control the information so that your country thinks it can get by by itself.


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All of you, take your silly Global Warming debate elsewhere!

this is about the here and now! Snow!

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Ppl in SoCal are helpless in the rain, snow, sunny days below 70, and sunny days above 90... So?


How do SoCal'ers ever survive leaving their little wonderland and coming into the real world? I eman, theyc an take the cold, the heat, or precipitation..what are they, 2 year olds with cars? (don't answer that)

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It just recently starting snowing here (Farmington, CT). I would be shocked if the grand predictions were right, though (HUGE WINTER STORM!! 6-12 inches!!). I'm guessing 3 inches.

Still, it's a bit irritating, since I have volleyball tonight, which is a bit of a drive (from both work and home). So I have to drive during what is likely to be the height of the storm.

-Arrian

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Hehem....May I remind you that you asked for our help in 97, 99 and the last big blizzard you just had a month ago.....Short memory I see....or do they just control the information so that your country thinks it can get by by itself.


Spec.


NYC is bigger than Montreal in terms of population and wealth..we really don;t need Canadian expertise in snow handling. Now, those hicks upstate, yeah, them perhaps, but not all the way down here. May i add we didn;t have any Blizzards in NYC in 1997. Maybe you are thinking somwhere upstate.

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you guys got it all wrong, the important thing today is the NCAA basketball championship game between Syracuse and Kansas.

Go Orangemen!

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Isn't it snowing up at Syracuse?

See how the whole world just come together...

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