08-04-2003 13:19									#1
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Out of the ideas from the thread on the issue of what we set our opponents to be, I bring you this poll.

This is really two polls in one.

A. Number of civs total?
1. 16 (standard for Huge map)
2. 24 (includes ALL the civs)
3. Other/ write-in

The option with the most votes (or write-in votes) for this poll wins.

B. Specific civs to include
1. Include these specific civs... (please list any you want)
2. All random

If 2. wins, then all civs will be randomly chosen. If 1. wins, then any civ with 5+ write-in votes will be chosen, with all others made of random choices.

I hope this satisfies most people.

	08-04-2003 14:59									#2
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The more the better! Bring'em on!!

	08-04-2003 15:08									#3
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Standard 16 Civs

And include those civs with maximum aggression levels.
Germany
Zulu
Mongols

	08-04-2003 15:59									#4
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I feel for the FAM with 23 civs to deal with, so I'll go for 16. This is plenty enough for a huge map.

It certainly would be nice to face off against ourselves in the running (Egypt), so I vote for one chosen civ - Egypt, and the rest to be random.

	08-04-2003 16:01									#5
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hi ,

we could take the original 16 again , .....

either that or we go for the 24 , but then we should play on the biggest size map (!)

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	08-04-2003 16:36									#6
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24 civs

And as opponent...

the Dutch

Aidun

	08-04-2003 17:45									#7
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16 civs all random

	08-04-2003 21:09									#8
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Voted 24, but any of these options are fine by me. I would like to see egypt in there, along with england so we have to race for the lighthouse....

	08-04-2003 23:07									#9
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16 civs. hand picked and modded to have all the civ traits

	09-04-2003 00:50									#10
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All 24 (if only 16 then random)

	09-04-2003 02:11									#11
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16 civs. Include Egypt.

	09-04-2003 05:55									#12
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In the real world, there are more than 180 countries. So, what is 24 ? Just think about how many phone calls George W Bush has to call for the Iraq war !

Anyway, even though there are 24, by the time we find everybody, the number would have dropped to 10-15.

	09-04-2003 12:26									#13
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10-12 Civ's. At Diety the more Civ's the harder it is to stay up with the tech. 24 Civ's? Tech's will be comming at two per turn during certain portions of the game!

I guess if you all really want a challenge....

I think it's more likely that we will fail. I will still participate and make suggestion in order to prevent that, I'm just not a hopeful if we do a full 24.

BTW, Togas is already making the map; shouldn't he know the number of Civ's beforehand?

	09-04-2003 15:18									#14
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24, some will have lousy positions or 3 tile islands and become the Haiti's and El Salvadors of our world.

	09-04-2003 17:59									#15
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Looks like this is going to be an extremely dense game...

	09-04-2003 18:38									#16
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24 civs, randomly chosen.

	10-04-2003 01:37									#17
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16-
egypt
aztecs

all expansionist civs

	10-04-2003 07:02									#18
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16 civs, all random.

	10-04-2003 07:43									#19
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24 civs, tiny map :P

just kidding on the second part there (duh)

	10-04-2003 21:14									#20
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Nope - 24 on a small map is fun. Try it.

	10-04-2003 23:30									#21
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24. Whoo!

	11-04-2003 00:49									#22
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How should we choose our opponents?

Rock, paper, scissors.

	11-04-2003 02:38									#23
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb How should we choose our opponents? Rock, paper, scissors.

hi ,

a poll should do fine , .....



we shall need to put it in two , .... or could Mark make a special poll with 24 options for us , .....


have a nice day

	11-04-2003 05:12									#24
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24 Civs

I vote for Egypt(who we last played), Greece, Aztecs, England, China, & India (all whom we didn't go to war with last game. Randon the rest.

E_T

	11-04-2003 06:05									#25
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Hey people, if we go with 24 civs that's all of them.

There is no random they will all be included.

	11-04-2003 22:11									#26
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GF is correct; clause B only applies with less than 23 opponents.

	12-04-2003 01:32									#27
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If there are 24 civs on either our home-made map or on an Archipelago map, some civs will be only 2 or 3 cities big.

Might not be a problem, but please realize this.

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Future slaves....

	12-04-2003 02:23									#29
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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster If there are 24 civs on either our home-made map or on an Archipelago map, some civs will be only 2 or 3 cities big. Might not be a problem, but please realize this.

Maybe we should let our mapmakers make this choice?

	12-04-2003 03:31									#30
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Personally, I would have liked to play against 30 other civs (adding the Dutch and a few other available civs out there), but that would take too long, so I voted for the 24 option.