05-05-2003 22:47									#61
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But the GW walls can't be sabotaged. Most of my attack groups will include x number of diplos/spys to take care of anyone that thinks that city walls will protect their city from ferrets. and sending 30 shield diplos to demolish more expensive improvements can be fun in it's own right.

	05-05-2003 22:51									#62
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again a distinction of MP vs SP.

	06-05-2003 01:51									#63
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Yes, you're quite correct, the diplo takes down wall is not an AI strategy.
But it is so prevalant in MP that no one really builds walls anymore. (unless it's a city with many many many improvements. And even then, it's rare)

RAH

	06-05-2003 09:24									#64
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if someone reaches your city, your asking for it to be taken anyways...... remember the old days with diplos...

you could go in and change the name on the opponent and rename his city "next" ...

	06-05-2003 12:24									#65
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"Next" is some kind of cute threat?

	06-05-2003 17:11									#66
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Nope, Fact.

	06-05-2003 18:21									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow "Next" is some kind of cute threat?

psychological warfare

	07-05-2003 05:02									#68
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"Next" was always right up there with "Mine"

It is good to see that most people have voted for the logical choice. The 20% for GW has remained pretty consistent throughout the voting...

	07-05-2003 10:17									#69
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Waste of a Dip.

	07-05-2003 17:17									#70
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Since the attack would usually happen that turn, unless you saw considerably more defense than you expected, not a waste of a dip by any means.
But If I think I have overwelming force, I won't bother with the dip either.

	13-05-2003 13:36									#71
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I like the great wall, but then again, I never play higher than prince, so what do I know???

	13-05-2003 18:26									#72
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The answer is definitely banana on this one. Don't care if I have neither.

	14-05-2003 06:45									#73
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i used to love the HG, pyramids, GW expansion....unstoppable

	14-05-2003 15:53									#74
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The answer is easy: cowards and fear hares built GW, all others ST. GW is useless against attack from sea. Against attacks on landside you can build fortresses on strategic points. You allways need vet units. With ST you save monex every turn and every ship becomes vet after a fight. It´s nice to attack poor barb units with ships. During my SP-time I left a 2size-city at the coast for the barbs to produce vet-ships.

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What's the significance of a 2size-city?

RAH

	14-05-2003 17:31									#76
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The city won´t be destroyed, if it is taken by barbarians. With cities size 1 can occur.

	14-05-2003 19:52									#77
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well you could say the same thing with size 2 cities for units as well...

i agree, i dn't like wall and its a last resort if i am getting my @ss handed to me which is very rare.

I have always been a STWA kinda fella

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quote: Originally posted by Cobra The city won´t be destroyed, if it is taken by barbarians. With cities size 1 can occur.

Ahhh, didn't quite get it at first, leaving the city for the barbs to capture. For some stupid reason i thought you meant building one so you could send ships out from it to attack barbs on the coast. Silly me.

	15-05-2003 01:29									#79
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senior moment !!!!!!!!!

of course hes talking non units non boats...thats nice under a representative govt

	15-05-2003 13:33									#80
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rah is right. I can´t explain all my words in english...it´s a little bit rusty . I´m a warlord and rarely play republic or demo.

	15-05-2003 17:20									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Cobra rah is right.

@ war4.

	16-05-2003 08:01									#82
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just checking up on you, my problem with that strat is the barbs never come for my stinking island cities....or i woudl do it all the time

welcome to my armada..... NON "lost at sea" NON "crusing the surf" NON "cloth and twigs"

	17-05-2003 01:08									#84
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Yeah, never seen a barb city produce a 'clad.

	17-05-2003 01:27									#85
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can a barb produce a boat other than trireme, sail, or transport?

	17-05-2003 13:17									#86
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Never seen them do it... But I love all the 'Non" units they can produce for me

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hadn't thought about the idea of ships being produced from a barb city - i also pictured ships attacking the barb coast and becoming vet.

I suppose if you have Leo's in conjunction with Sun Tsu, you could get barb ships, upgrade them and then make them vet, although i don't know any barb ship upgrades other than trireme to caravel that produces a unit than can attack

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Frigates

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quote: Originally posted by rah Frigates

There's no need for that.............he was only giving his opinion.

	19-05-2003 02:18									#90
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@ spike....frigate, yes, but they are barb boats.....i don't think cities actually produce anyting but the current/latest unit available to them....

anyone else