09-04-2003 18:41									#1
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I hope someone can help me with a question. Last night I was playing a multiplayer game with four other players. I was doing very well and took the Persians out early. Next on my list was the Americans and I took two of their cities. This player got really pissed and said something like "I've got your IP address - say goodbye to your hard drive!" I'm not really a computer expert so this freaked me out and I dropped out of the game.

My question is this - is this guy full of it? Can he really get my ip address when we are playing a game online? And, if so, can he hack into my system? I was hosting this game.

If someone can do this, it makes me not want to play multiplayer. Geez dude, it's just a game!

	09-04-2003 20:09									#2
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yes if yer hosting the game then he has to connect to u, hence its quite possible he has yer ip address.. dropping out of the game would have done squat since yer still connected to the internet :P try unplugging yer cat5 cable if yer using a cable modem..

and sont be such a wuss next time :P

	09-04-2003 20:56									#3
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Getting your ip is no problem... but that won´t help much at all if I´m out to hack someone....
If you´re really scared you should get a firewall or something...
But I´m quite sure it was just empty threats, a real hacker wont be boasting about having someones ip...

what a bad loser he must have been

	09-04-2003 22:20									#4
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I agree with Thirgaral. A real hacker isn't going to boast like that. I'm pretty knowledgable about such things and if I really wanted to, could do some mean things to somebody. Unfortunately (or fortunately), hacking from your home isn't terribly easy. You can be traced easily. Also, the percentage of people out there that can do mean things to you is really small. I agree with Tre976, don't be such a wuss. Chances are, this pud was some 13 year old.

	09-04-2003 23:51									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I agree with Thirgaral. A real hacker isn't going to boast like that. I'm pretty knowledgable about such things and if I really wanted to, could do some mean things to somebody. Unfortunately (or fortunately), hacking from your home isn't terribly easy. You can be traced easily. Also, the percentage of people out there that can do mean things to you is really small. I agree with Tre976, don't be such a wuss. Chances are, this pud was some 13 year old.

although installing trojans that act as all-port-proxies on other people's boxes helps you not get traces

	10-04-2003 00:56									#6
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That is still above what the average 13 year old are capable of.

Just to add some perspective. I live in Norway, one of the most internet-connected countries in the world(top ten in most ratings). Of 4-4.5 millon citizens about 40 have the knowledge and moral(or lack thereof) to pose a real threat to anyone. The number of people that can cause annoyances or minor damage are of course higher. These 40 were referred to as the 'A-team' by a government official in a recent newspaper article. If you keep your system up to date(windows update for most of us), use an updated virus-scanner and use a personal firewall then you're safe for anything but the most dedicated hackers.

	10-04-2003 01:11									#7
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quote: Chances are, this pud was some 13 year old.

who said 13 year olds can´t hack??
There was an 11 year old once that did some real serious hacking... it´s the skill not the age...
well, whatever...

quote: I live in Norway, one of the most internet-connected countries in the world(top ten in most ratings).

And we're the number one.

quote: use an updated virus-scanner and use a personal firewall then you're safe for anything but the most dedicated hackers.

dedicated hackers seldom waste their time on "private" PC's so yes, you're rather safe.....

	10-04-2003 01:52									#8
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Whenever I'm fealing mean, I'll go over to someones aWhenever I'm feeling mean and someone has forgotten to log off AIM or whatever, I'll pull that prank. I go down the list of names and use a cut+past conversation starting with 'I've got your IP, get offline now!'.


He was probably scared about losing and bluffed. If you are still concerned, download zone alarm personal firewall (free).

	10-04-2003 01:57									#9
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Thanks for your comments.

I feel a bit better now. I don't feel like I'm being a wuss about this; I don't know, that's why I asked. I'm not a hardcore computer "geek"

I think you're right - he was a loser or a punk kid and this is his sick idea of a funny joke.

As far as the firewall goes, I thought you couldn't have a firewall up to play PTW online. That was my understanding anyway.

Thanks again,

Mo

	10-04-2003 03:06									#10
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About the trojan thing, I think I could do that in Java... if I understand you right.

	10-04-2003 12:51									#11
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MotownDennis , you can use a firewall when you play online games. You just have to make openings in the FW to allow game communications. I believe most games have instructions for which port you need to open to make things work.

Thirgaral , I'VE GOT YOUR IP, GET OFFLINE NOW BEFORE I GIVE YOUR ADDRESS TO DR. NÅRTON

	10-04-2003 17:52									#12
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quote: Thirgaral , I'VE GOT YOUR IP, GET OFFLINE NOW BEFORE I GIVE YOUR ADDRESS TO DR. NÅRTON

Luckily it´s not my own...I´m using my school´s ip

	11-04-2003 02:16									#13
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How about a free Firewall, like the one from http://www.agnitum.com or others.

	11-04-2003 03:43									#14
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I have Norton Internet Security 2002. I usually get two to three notices per month that someone has attempted unauthorized access. This is my home PC. I think that hackers may be more common than we would all like to assume

	11-04-2003 05:14									#15
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A lot of times the 'intrusion attempt' warnings are just simple port scans. A script kiddie might have a bot scanning ports on a block of IP's. Contrary to popular opinion, most hackers don't waste effort concentrating on one computer (unless it's the RIAA server ). They run a few scripts testing known vunerabilities and then if those fail they move on to the next machine.

	11-04-2003 06:03									#16
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If you unplug your cable, wait a couple of hours before replugging or you will get the same IP-adress (at least that's how it works with me )

	11-04-2003 19:14									#17
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You just had to tell him: "Hey, I have your IP too and if you try anything my brother who works for the police will soon be knocking at your door !"

	11-04-2003 19:45									#18
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for a sticky ip

type ipconfig /release

this will release your current IP address and next time you login you'll get another one.

If your on line and people have your IP address (wich is easy) your fair game!.

I'd chalk that game up as a moral victory!

	12-04-2003 21:32									#19
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hi ,

www.zonealarm.com & www.finjan.com , both have free versions that shall protect you , ......

together with www.esafe.com you have a great defense , and they dont stop you from playing

have a nice day

	12-04-2003 22:00									#20
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Thanks all

I've got my firewall up. I wish I could go back to that game now and finishing squashing that punk.

	12-04-2003 22:02									#21
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quote: Originally posted by MotownDennis Thanks all I've got my firewall up. I wish I could go back to that game now and finishing squashing that punk.

hi ,

nah , dont loose your time with such a person , ......

have you filed a complaint btw , .....

have a nice day