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Andemagne is offline Andemagne
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Rovaniemi, Lappland, Finland
Dec 1999
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what faction/leader is your favorite ally? and why?
how this depends what faction you play?

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Any and all factions which favor democratic politics. My alliances as a Morganite serve only to increase revenues through trade, so I'm always interested in whichever factions I can keep my friends at the lowest possible price.

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Aki because until the late stages of the game all other factions argue with some SE choice i've made or just simply don't like me. Also Aki is like a friend who you can have a fun fight with after i've given her some new reactors and plenty of cash Then she'll become submissive and I'll set her on some other weak AI and watch her massacre them with her new weapons ... well I need something to entertain me once the micromanagement kicks in

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Mar 2003
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It's possible to have allies in SMAC? They all come screaming for my blood.

But generally anyone who can both be talked into a pact and builds a decent amount of bases so I can profit from him is good. Which means Lal is my friend. I almost always play a builder start, so early trade is great.

Pirates can sometimes be a solid ally, but they are fickle. And prone to living in your lap and not quite understanding why they can't borrow your pants, eh, coast line.

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Mar 2002
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I've always found the University to be a solid ally. But then again, that's usually because I run Knowledge.

The Peacekeepers are usually begging for a pact with me as well, since I prefer to run Democratic (except of course when I am playing as the Hive )

Everyone else seems to hate me from the word go, even when I am not yet using the social engineering choice they hate me using (Yes. Even... no... ESPECIALLY the Gaians and especially the Morganites)

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Sep 2002
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My all time favorite ally is the Gaians!!

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Dec 2001
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Aki or Zak, I want there tech...

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Zak. In all the games I've played, he's the one who doesn't really care what atrocity I do. Deidre would be next seeing as how we both seem to see eye-to-eye at the beginning, but eventually Planet gets too big for the both of us...

Ogie Oglethorpe is offline Ogie Oglethorpe
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Dec 1999
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Submissive Zak.

Ummm.... tasty techs.

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Mar 1999
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Zak. I also favor Knowledge a lot, so he's usually nice to me. And, contrary to the other leaders, he's not constantly bothering me with "oh, I don't like this thing that you did/are doing".

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I play as the Hive so the only factions who like me are the Aliens, and only one of them can like anybody so that's not particularly good.

Police State irks Lal, Roze, Domai, and Miriam.

Planned economics are offensive to Morgan, Cha Dawn, and Deirdre.

Wealth offends Santiago, Zakharov, and for some reason Svensgaard (even though he should have no particular aversion).

I have a personal dislike to Aki Zeta5 because I think her faction is way too powerful. I usually move against her violently and fatally as soon as I can.

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Morgan. It's nice if he's on the far side of the world, but his location isn't all that critical. Give him just enough help to keep him from being squashed and he'll be a good distraction for the other factions, drawing some attention away from whatever I might be up to.

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Sep 2002
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I agree about Aki Zeta. Can be a very bothersome faction.

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Wealth offends Santiago, Zakharov, and for some reason Svensgaard (even though he should have no particular aversion).


Sven is a power-lover, like Santiago. While you might think that the AI factions would only dislike you if you chose their aversions, this is not the case. Basically, if you make a choice that's different from the AI's preferred (mandatory) SE choice, they're going to get pissed off at you. This is why when playing Yang, LAL is _always_ your enemy, and why Domai will _never_ get along with the Gaians or Cult for very long.

It's interesting to not that while Zak can't pick Fundy himself, he doesn't mind if you take it, likewise Mimi and knowledge.

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Apr 2003
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definatly gaians

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I prefer Morgan, he rarely does anything but trade with me.

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I like to ally with the Gaians, but it's hard because I usually go Free Market.

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I like to ally with the University tech geeks.
and I also like to ally with the Gaians, because they are so green.

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Allies or submisive pactmates?

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Allies or submisive pactmates?


Aren't they the same thing?

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For me yes...

Ned is offline Ned
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Aki is good. So is Vorlan - a downloadable faction who is fun to play.

Main_Brain is offline Main_Brain
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Drones. They Fight you build. (Be sure to provide them /w some tech's though)

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Best Ally ? My Planet Buster

Oh wait, faction leader ? I do like Yang, but since I usually end up being the bad Hive in most my games, I like Roze or the hindu guy, one gets me the fresh techs once I beat her into a pulp, and the other is a sissy.

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Strangely, in most of the games I play, Lal is usually a very strong contender. He's the one who'll be well connected with allies coming after me while he builds up a tech lead and then fires missile after missile into my bases.

Bugger.

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Santiago or Yang, so I can send em off to attack my enemies.

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all you got to do for Lal is smack him up a bit. Take over a couple of his bases and shout some demands his way via comm-link and he'll usually say "please don't kill me! I surrender!"

But I end up 'bustering his a**.

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Since I run Planned until it is a neccessity to run Green (Planet and B-drones), since I am not a big fan of Free Market (Choppers! Need I stress any more? Not to mention the fact that I have random units roaming around Planet just snooping around.), I usually befriend the Gaians, unless they land right next to me in which case they are a neccessary sacrifice . Otherwise they seem good allies, with only one reported betrayal, which wasn't immediate but gradual, and ended up with me being careless and letting her develop nukes and using them...

University and Lal have betrayed me too many times - way too many times, and Zak has even sneak attacked me with Wealth p1ssing him off...

Other factions really have a tendency to p1ss me off - either with their twisted agendas, or I get really jealous (like Morgan and Drones ).

Aki is also a good ally from the AX factions, not to mention a pretty-looking Scandinavian... :nice:

But with submissives? Oh... that's an entirerly different story in which Miriam is IMO the best as you can feed her tech so she does the rough work for you!

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As allies, nobody was really reliable. Morgan would probably do if I didn't insist to run planned. Everybody is welcome as submissive except Miriam who betrayed me twice in one game - which simply means I don't build her up.

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