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Many of the posts about the war were of course trolls or overblown.
Others I sincerely believed such as that there would be serious resistance in Bagdat and that there was no way to enter that city without at least some bloodbath.
MTG said this wasn't to be the case and I disagreed. And many people disagreed.
The future is yet to be seen but on this I for one have to admit I was wrong and MTG was right.
That's it. One good deed per decade is enough.
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500.000 actually.
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I'm sure the US didn't ignore it though.
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That I have; let me check... yes.
However I'm not talking about the 500.000 civilians dead which was the initial UN estimate. 100.000 from the fighting and the others from starvation, diseases and other humanitarian crisis. Obviously measures were taken for humanitarian catastrophies not to happen to that scale. These numbers serve as warnings. Besides, "the game is not over", it's level 2 now.
I'm talking about invading Bagdat and not meeting any particular resistance. This was very surprising.
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paiktis obviously hasn't learned the dodge and duck technique. No one is ever wrong on this forum. But some of our previous comments are no longer operative (ala Richard Nixon).
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:27
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quote:
Originally posted by Seneca
Good honest response.
There are two types of cynic - those who want to be proved wrong, and those who hate it. I'm glad Paiktis is of the former sort.
To hear some of the anti-war camp, you'd think they were almost relieved at the looting and anarchy, after all those depressing pictures of cheering Iraqis....
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The problem with pictures of cheering people is that the same people who cheer you one day may shoot you the next.
The same people who cheered US forces in Mogadishu one day, cheered the bodies of US pilors and Rangers being dragged through the streets by ropes a few months later. The mob, er, um, crowd, is a fickle thing.
The US is still incurring casualties in Baghdad, there are humanitarian and security problems all over the country. The Iraqis never had a problem cheering for Saddam either - kind of like Pavlov's dog, you learn to cheer for the guys with the guns, so that they don't shoot you.
Reading anything of substance into short-term local reactions is just a good way to delude yourself. That Saddam is/was a murderous psychotic sadistic ******* despised by a majority of his people is pretty hard to doubt in the slightest. That getting rid of Saddam, in and of itself, is worthwhile, is a given, if you don't concern yourself with what happens over the next years/decades, or elsewhere in the Islamic world.
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Another lesson for the experts. Whenever you see a talking head on TV it is probably best to listen to him with a grain of salt. The best information comes from the street. The problem is that the street was too scared to talk except for the expatriots. They predicted this outcome and apparently Bush listened to them.
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11-04-2003 23:12
Though you already know what I meant, I tend to over-estimate the intelligence of many people. Therefore I will clarify:
ACK!
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