12-04-2003 01:36									#1
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quote: GF, I am including the ratified Feudalism deal with this message. We are holding onto the save to make sure everything is in order before accepting the 200g, also for the screenshot of Voxian troop movements GoW took last turn to better direct our own. Good luck to you and GoW in your naval exploration. We will coordinate things so that neither of our vessels will have to delay any movement for the other's. Sincerely, Aeson quote: GhengisFarb of the Glory of War, It is the pleasure of GS to offer GoW this document confirming our agreement to the matters discussed yesterday. We feel the agreement is best served for both parties with a few particulars that were not touched on in the discussions earlier. These are only suggestions on the part of GS, and if they fail to meet with the approval of GoW they can be erased and the agreement will still stand. These inclusions will be noted with a *. If GoW has any suggestions as to any revisions or additions, GS will give the same consideration to those proposals. This is to allow for the final polish to be added to the agreement while avoiding any further delays in the signing which is time critical at this juncture. In no case will either party be forced to agree to any such additions if they feel they aren't in their own best interests. ------------------------------ The Terms: (currently turn 93) Research and Payment: GoW sends 200g to GS this turn. GS will increase research funding on Feudalism to finish the advance on turn 96. GS promises to deliver Feudalism to GoW as soon as it is researched. GoW agrees to an NDA (NTC) on Feudalism for for the duration of 10 turns from when it is delivered to them. After 10 turns have passed from GoW recieving Feudalism, they are free to do with it as they see fit. Sea ROP: GS gives full access to the Galleys of GoW to navigate the shores of Little Bob. This access will last until GoW has had ample time to explore the circumferance of the continent or GoW is satisfied with the extent of their exploration. GS agrees not to land any units on BoB for the duration of the Sea ROP *plus 10 turns, without explicit consent from GoW. GoW agrees not to land any units on Little Bob for the duration of the Sea ROP *plus 10 turns, without explicit consent from GS. GoW will use a Galley to observe the road between Elipolis and Dissidentville to report Voxian troop movements to GS for a duration of 5 turns. These reports will be in the form of screenshots showing the type and number of Voxian units within the Galley's sight. The Galley will each turn check the tiles NW of Grog Mountain, to 2 tiles South, NW of Vox's cultural borders if not hampered by Voxian vessels. After 5 turns time, the Galley is free to continue on it's way. *If GoW's Galley happens to be sunk by the Voxians, GoW will notify GS of it and the observation requirement will be dropped at that point. GoW's ships in GS territory will not number more than two. Neither will the two venture within 8 tiles of each other. The first vessel will be allowed 2 Horsemen occupants. The second will be empty. This Sea ROP will last until GoW's vessels are able to safely (or suicidally if GoW so chooses) leave GS' waters having explored their extent. Future Chivalry Trade: (can be agreed to now or seperated from the above for further revision) GoW researches Chivalry as soon as Feudalism is delivered to them. GS will give 200g to GoW halfway through GoW's research of Chivalry. GoW will give Chivalry to GS as soon as research is finished. GS will observe an NDA (NTC) on Chivalry equivalent to that which GoW agrees to with Feudalism. After 10 turns have passed from GS receiving Chivalry, they are free to do with it as they see fit. --------------------- This agreement in whole or in part (as noted by *) is hereby officially ratified by The Gathering Storm.

Here's the troop report I propose to send them based on info from Vox on what they want GS to be told:

	12-04-2003 02:29									#2
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ok. That is also posted in the FAC - GS thread.

	12-04-2003 03:48									#3
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Question ...

No landing of Units into Vox lands ????

Are we planning on doing this ? It will be a blatent doublecross.

	12-04-2003 04:07									#4
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Forget the above Question ... I got the answer from the GS thread

Other Question ... the "NDA"

Non Disclosure Agreement.....We are not supposed to tell ANYONE that we have Fuedlaism. Which I think we have already done.

My guess for this, is that they already have an agreement to sell it to someone, and now they dont want to. So they dont want them to know they have got it.

So..have we told averyone that we have got it ?
Because this "other team" may find out, and then get back to GS...causeing all sorts of problems.

Worst of all, would be GS claiming we broke the agreement, and refusing to give us Fuedalism. (or our 200g back)

Regs

	12-04-2003 05:23									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel Forget the above Question ... I got the answer from the GS thread Other Question ... the "NDA" Non Disclosure Agreement.....We are not supposed to tell ANYONE that we have Fuedlaism. Which I think we have already done. My guess for this, is that they already have an agreement to sell it to someone, and now they dont want to. So they dont want them to know they have got it. So..have we told averyone that we have got it ? Because this "other team" may find out, and then get back to GS...causeing all sorts of problems. Worst of all, would be GS claiming we broke the agreement, and refusing to give us Fuedalism. (or our 200g back) Regs

Until they sent us the agreement it was not in effect so any comments to other teams before this clause was added should not be viewed as a violation.

From this point on we should not discuss the Feudalism aspect of the agreement however.

	12-04-2003 08:29									#6
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You are an awesome diplomat GF